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  • Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi View Post
    So how is it not holding under that definition?
    Missing the relevant piece. Rule 8, Section 4, Article 7:

    End of Restrictions: If the quarterback or the receiver of the snap demonstrates no further intention to pass the ball (i.e., hands off or pitches the ball to another player, throws a forward or backward pass, loses possession of the ball by a muff that touches the ground or a fumble, or if he is tackled) the restrictions on the defensive team prohibiting illegal contact, an illegal cut block, or defensive holding against an offensive receiver will end.


    Read the whole thing, or just the relevant (bold) parts. The call was DPI or nothing. The refs chose nothing.
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    • Oh, hmm.

      Originally posted by Donegeal View Post
      You mean the Calvin Johnson drop.
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      • I know he had his arms around him. That's reason for a penalty. Now I'm asking, is face guarding still a penalty? I believe so.
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        • AFAIK, yes. But perhaps one of our rulebook quoters can confirm.
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            • Originally posted by Jaguar View Post
              The call was DPI or nothing.
              Indeed, otherwise you'd have the strange occurrence that in every DPI situation, you'd also have a defensive holding penalty at the same time, due to the same action.
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              • Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                Doesn't the defender have to still be looking back for the ball? I know that you used to watch the receiver's eyes and when they go big, the ball was almost there, so you turned around to avoid a face guarding penalty.
                There's no rule against face guarding in the NFL. Despite it being called against the Pats in a somewhat important NE/IND game a few years ago.

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                • Originally posted by Jaguar View Post
                  Missing the relevant piece. Rule 8, Section 4, Article 7:

                  End of Restrictions: If the quarterback or the receiver of the snap demonstrates no further intention to pass the ball (i.e., hands off or pitches the ball to another player, throws a forward or backward pass, loses possession of the ball by a muff that touches the ground or a fumble, or if he is tackled) the restrictions on the defensive team prohibiting illegal contact, an illegal cut block, or defensive holding against an offensive receiver will end.


                  Read the whole thing, or just the relevant (bold) parts. The call was DPI or nothing. The refs chose nothing.
                  Ah, ok. So in theory, if aliens came along and locked a tractor beam on the ball after it was thrown to keep it in the air, the defense could just tackle all the receivers and as long as there was one DB left to intercept the ball when it came down it would be legal?
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                  • Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi View Post
                    Ah, ok. So in theory, if aliens came along and locked a tractor beam on the ball after it was thrown to keep it in the air, the defense could just tackle all the receivers and as long as there was one DB left to intercept the ball when it came down it would be legal?
                    Depends on whether or not locking onto a football with a tractor beam constitutes a football move.
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                    • Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi View Post
                      Ah, ok. So in theory, if aliens came along and locked a tractor beam on the ball after it was thrown to keep it in the air, the defense could just tackle all the receivers and as long as there was one DB left to intercept the ball when it came down it would be legal?
                      Do you think anyone would be worrying about the outcome of the game at that point?
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                      • Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi View Post
                        Ah, ok. So in theory, if aliens came along and locked a tractor beam on the ball after it was thrown to keep it in the air, the defense could just tackle all the receivers and as long as there was one DB left to intercept the ball when it came down it would be legal?
                        Surely a penalty would be called on the aliens for illegal use of tractor beam in securing a football.
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                        • Yeah, but since it was in Carolina the penalty would be assessed on the home team and NE would still have gotten an untimed down!
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                          • With the KC loss. 6 teams tied for the last playoff spot.

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                            • In AFC. Qualify your statement before some nimrod tells you that you're wrong.
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                              • In AFC. Qualify your statement before some nimrod tells you that you're wrong.
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