Apolyton Fantasy Football (not soccer damnit)

[SlowwHand]

I know. You have to play the cards that are dealt.

I find it somewhat interesting that the QB that a couple of people rake over the coals was drafted as the 4th QB in both IDP and DST. Stafford.
Amazingly in IDP, Romo was taken as 6th QB while Eli and Vick sit looking at their telephone.

[Ben Kenobi]

It's just the way things fell. After I took Brees #1 here, I ended up picking #3 in the FFZ draft, and Rodgers/Brady went 1-2. Go figure.

There's an FFZ draft? I haven't been able to access the site in about a year or so.

Oh, you must mean the offline one...

[Ben Kenobi]

Amazingly in IDP, Romo was taken as 6th QB while Eli and Vick sit looking at their telephone.

Vick's probably not going to get called in this league. IDP doesn't have any Vick supporters.

[-Jrabbit]

That's funny, since Zopper just drafted him at 6.06.

But you're right about his lack of support in IDP. Vick will start, but was the 11th QB taken.
I think Berz took him in the first last year.

[snoopy369]

Vick was overrated last year, and as consequence of failing to meet those overly lofty expectations is underrated this year. Vick is a solid choice for those who know what they're getting - a QB who will be in the top 5 many weeks and will not play many weeks. In fantasy you have to hope those top 5 numbers happen week 15 and 16, and you need to get a solid backup who will play every week and get you enough numbers to get by without him, but if you can get Vick in the lower rounds he's a steal.

[Ben Kenobi]

But you're right about his lack of support in IDP. Vick will start, but was the 11th QB taken.
I think Berz took him in the first last year.

There's just too many decent QBs out there that play at Vick's level. I can name 5 others off the top of my head that should go before Vick.

[Ben Kenobi]

Vick is a solid choice for those who know what they're getting - a QB who will be in the top 5 many weeks and will not play many weeks. In fantasy you have to hope those top 5 numbers happen week 15 and 16, and you need to get a solid backup who will play every week and get you enough numbers to get by without him, but if you can get Vick in the lower rounds he's a steal

Nah, there are much better steals out there than Vick.

Vick was the 11th ranked QB (with no Peyton last year).

This year his value fell about to what he's worth. Getting the 11th round QB in the 6th round isn't a steal - he's essentially a QB2 at this point. You could get similar QBs with his value much, much, later.

[-Jrabbit]

I don't know how about "much" later. The QB2 run will be starting shortly.

[Ben Kenobi]

I don't know how about "much" later. The QB2 run will be starting shortly.

Well, this is where we find out who's really done their homework. picks 7 through 12.

Sparrowhawk was bemoaning our lack of options?

[Jaguar]

Vick is poorly-suited to IDP scoring, so where Zopperoni took him was about right - neither a reach nor a steal.

[Al B. Sure!]

Ben's bias against Vick is absurd. Over at Pro Football Calculator, he's 6th among QB's in average draft position.

[Jaguar]

IDP scoring is strongly anti-Vick (or, alternatively, standard scoring is strongly pro-Vick). Ben is absurdly biased against Vick for character reasons, but Z drafted him right on schedule in the IDP league.

[Al B. Sure!]

IDP scoring is strongly anti-Vick (or, alternatively, standard scoring is strongly pro-Vick). Ben is absurdly biased against Vick for character reasons, but Z drafted him right on schedule in the IDP league.

What makes the settings anti-Vick? 6 points per TD, how many points per rushing? Are the settings the same in D/ST?

[Jaguar]

Points per completion. Strongly anti-Vick.

[Al B. Sure!]

Points per completion. Strongly anti-Vick.

He's about 61% as an Eagle, higher than say Eli Manning. Or is it not enough volume?