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  • I was looking for that picture, couldn't find it anywhere. Thanks, LA.




    Interesting week ahead; lots of potential upset games.

    Miami and Georgia Tech kick it off tomorrow night to decide the early frontrunner for the ACC, a position equivalent to valedictorian of a class full of retarded kids.

    But potential trap games abound:

    Ohio State vs. Toledo at a neutral site (Cleveland)... Toledo racked up over 700 yards of offense against Colorado. Okay, it was Colorado, but you do that to anyone and it is impressive. After a heartbreaking loss to the Trojans, the Buckeye D better be ready to run.

    Michigan vs. Eastern Michigan... An almost exact mirror image of last week's MSU-CMU game. A cross-town(ish) little brother with a chip on its shoulder, but instead of a star QB the Eagles have a head coach who was defensive coordinator at Michigan for several years, and worked with many of the kids still on the team.

    Boise State at Fresno State... The Bulldogs are one of those teams that always seem to be dangerous, especially at home. People expect the Broncos to go undefeated, but this is the game that could trip them up.

    North Carolina vs. East Carolina... Look, I'm not sure how the Tarheels got ranked in the first place, and the Pirates retain much of the personnel that pulled off a couple big upsets last year.

    Cal at Minnesota... The Gophers are terrible. Really, really awful. But the Bears are habitually overrated, and Minnesota can be a tough place to win on the road. This has "trap" written all over it.

    Nebraksa at Virginia Tech... It's too early in the season to know exactly how good these teams are. They could be really good, or really average. After a tough week for the Big 12, the Huskers could win some respect back, especially for their rightly-maligned North Division.

    Oklahoma vs. Tulsa... Hard to imagine Oklahoma losing two games against non-BCS teams, but Tulsa is coming off a great year, and they can rack up points just as quickly as BYU.

    Utah at Oregon... Utah is the ranked team, but Oregon is the 4-point favorite here. Are the Ducks really as inept as they looked against the Broncos? Are the Utes still among the elite after losing a sizable chunk of last year's undefeated, #2 ranked squad? This will be maybe the most interesting game of the weekend.

    Cincinnati at Oregon State... Again, the unranked team is the favorite (1-point). Unlike Cal, Oregon State is a habitually underranked team, consistently rolling up 9 and 10 win seasons over the last several years. This is a major test for the Bearcats--pull this off, and they'll have more than a few new believers.

    Florida State at BYU... FSU lost to Miami, nearly got upset by a middling I-AA team, and now has to travel to BYU. The Cougars are only favored by 7 points in this one, despite having home field, a top ten ranking, and beating the mighty Sooners. Given all that, the Noles will likely win in a blowout.

    Georgia at Arkansas... Another ranked team is a 1-point dog on the road. An interesting game for those who care about second-tier SEC teams. I never know what to make of either of these schools.

    Texas vs. Texas Tech... Have the Red Raiders reloaded for their scheme, or are they dogmeat in a revenge game? If nothing else, there ought to be lots of points scored in this one.

    And finally...

    Florida vs. Tennessee... Holy ****, the Vols are gonna get killed.
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    • And Urban is so going to roll up the score after Kiffin was trying to say Florida cheats in the offseason...
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      • the Huskers could win some respect back, especially for their rightly-maligned North Division.


        Nebraska and Missouri would be the third and fourth best teams in the Big Ten.
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        • Maybe, maybe (probably) not.

          What is that supposed to prove, exactly?
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          • That you probably shouldn't talk about how the Big 12 North is "rightly maligned" when your own conference is just as bad. I'll take a little **** from a Pac-10 or SEC supporter at the moment, but Big Ten fans have no right.
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            • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post

              Florida vs. Tennessee... Holy ****, the Vols are gonna get killed.
              I was at the Tennessee-UCLA debacle. There are so many issues with the Tennessee offense that their best plan for Florida might be to punt on 1st down and pray Eric Barry can catch a few of Tebow's passes.

              Tennessee's defense looked better than average, but had several breakdowns.

              I think Guynemer's post is spot on, but....

              GO VOLS!
              (I mean...miracles do happen, right?)
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              • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                That you probably shouldn't talk about how the Big 12 North is "rightly maligned" when your own conference is just as bad. I'll take a little **** from a Pac-10 or SEC supporter at the moment, but Big Ten fans have no right.
                Wait.

                The best two teams in the Big 12 North might be the third or fourth best teams in the Big 10? (They might; they might be a bit worse than that, depending on how year two of RichRod goes, not to mention potential turn-arounds from the usual suspects--Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern, MSU.)

                How the hell does that cast a bad light on the Big 10, if the best the Big 12 North can offer might be middle-of-the-road Big 10 teams?
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                • How the hell does that cast a bad light on the Big 10, if the best the Big 12 North can offer might be middle-of-the-road Big 10 teams?




                  1. Third and fourth best isn't "middle of the road".

                  2. The fact that a division you think is "rightfully maligned" would put two teams in the top-third of the Big Ten very much does cast a bad light on the Big Ten.

                  3. I'm being generous to your side by only comparing the Big 12 North to the Big Ten. Oklahoma and Texas are better than every single team in the Big Ten.
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                  • Big 12 kicks ass, and I'll keep saying it, and whomever wants to can keep disputing it. The fact remains, it does kick ass.
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                    • Well, you know... except when they face Florida in the National Championship Game
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                      • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                        How the hell does that cast a bad light on the Big 10, if the best the Big 12 North can offer might be middle-of-the-road Big 10 teams?




                        1. Third and fourth best isn't "middle of the road".
                        Third isn't. Fourth and (potentially) fifth and/or sixth definitely are.

                        2. The fact that a division you think is "rightfully maligned" would put two teams in the top-third of the Big Ten very much does cast a bad light on the Big Ten.


                        It puts a worse light on the Big 12 North--therefore, it is rightfully maligned.

                        3. I'm being generous to your side by only comparing the Big 12 North to the Big Ten. Oklahoma and Texas are better than every single team in the Big Ten.
                        No, you're not being generous to my side; you're being fair to my side, since I didn't mention the Big 12 South at all.
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                        • OK, the headache has subsided. Now on to MSU!
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                          • Third isn't. Fourth and (potentially) fifth and/or sixth definitely are.


                            You do know the Big Ten has 11 teams, right? Sixth place is right in the middle...

                            It puts a worse light on the Big 12 North--therefore, it is rightfully maligned.




                            How, exactly? This only makes sense if you're agreeing with me that the Big Ten is terrible conference. It that's the case, why are we arguing?

                            No, you're not being generous to my side; you're being fair to my side, since I didn't mention the Big 12 South at all.


                            Comparing an 11-team conference to a 6-team division is "fair"?
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                            • I wouldn't go so far to say the Big Ten is terrible, but no, it's not as good as the Big 12 as a whole. At least, it doesn't appear so so far this year.

                              The Big 12 South is quite a bit better, on average; the Big 12 North is quite a bit worse. I mentioned only the Big 12 North, which has been very mediocre for several years now, and will likely be no better this year. The Big 12 North is rightfully maligned.


                              And come on, Drake. Yes, 6th would be exactly in the middle. But 4th through 8th would be middle-of-the-road.

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                              • The Big 12 North is rightfully maligned.


                                And yet it's good enough to match up favorably with 82% of the Big Ten. I don't think the right conference/division is being maligned here...

                                I mentioned only the Big 12 North, which has been very mediocre for several years now,




                                Kansas and Missouri were in the top-10 for quite a while over the past two years...

                                Yes, 6th would be exactly in the middle. But 4th through 8th would be middle-of-the-road.


                                Why not 5 through 7?
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