College Football Thread - Pandemonium Reigns!

[SlowwHand]

reismark, you're so full of crap. Big 10 and Pac 10 have more suckup kissasses than anyone else in the world.

[Imran Siddiqui]

No, the SEC has BY FAR the most "suckup kissasses".

[DanS]

To be honest, there seems like a lot of parity in college football this year. Nobody really sticks out as dominant and even the Big 12 looks no worse than the others.

[snoopy369]

1. Ohio State
2. Oregon
3. LSU
4. Kansas
5. West Virginia
6. Oklahoma
7. Virginia Tech
8. Hawaii
9. Boston College
10. Missouri

I'd like to put Michigan in there, but they can't really get in unless they beat OSU. If they beat OSU, then they will be #4 or #5 probably.

You know how much i'd enjoy an oregon-UM rematch in Pasadena...

[DanS]

Originally posted by Lord Avalon
Wow. I didn't know Navy hadn't beaten ND since 1963.

Congrats to Navy! From what I saw of the game, they were the better team. I have a lot of respect for them because of the constraints under which the team works and succeeds. Johnson also is a great coach that really fits the school.

To be fair, Notre Dame should never lose to Navy (or to any other school except perhaps USC sometimes--no offense intended to the Michigan fans here, but my expectations are that high). But the 43 game winning streak didn't reflect the fact that Navy is a perennial bowl team. They have been a good team for a while now. I don't think any other program besides ND could have strung that streak together.

[snoopy369]

Notre Dame should lose to Michigan a bit over half the time, including each new year

Dan, how's that 2-9 record looking now

[DanS]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Notre Dame should lose to Michigan a bit over half the time, including each new year

I don't believe in that kind of determinism. But if I were a determinist, I would exclude from my calculations all the games not played in the modern era.

As for 2-9, I still don't think it will happen.

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
No, the SEC has BY FAR the most "suckup kissasses".

I know what you mean. The very thought of playing Minnesota, Northwestern, Iowa, Purdue and Indiana is scary.
Don't you get tired of being wrong?

[Imran Siddiqui]

You do realize that Northwestern is 5-5, Iowa is 5-5, Purdue is 7-3, and Indiana is 6-4, right? And all those teams have been doing that generally out of conference.

Minnesota is really the only horrible team in that conference. Most of the Big 10 teams are mediocre with Ohio State and Michigan being good.

The amusing think is Purdue is only 3-3 in conference, and has a better overall winning percentage than all the SEC teams aside from LSU, Georgia, and Auburn.

Now here comes the bull**** "the SEC teams beat up on each other" crap, that you'll pull when you realize your point has been blown to smithereens .

Not saying the Big 10 is better than the SEC, but the SEC ain't as good as the suckass kissups seem to assume it is.

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by SlowwHand



Don't you get tired of being wrong?

Evidently not.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Man, Sloww... you keep coming back for more and more pwnage and have no idea how bad you are being slammed. It's almost sad.

[SlowwHand]

I was just thinking that same thought about you.
Put your little taffy ass teams against SEC or Big 12 and make them have to actually beat someone.

"They're 7-2" or whatever. Big deal. Play someone of note.

[SlowwHand]

Ah, forget it. I'm wrong. Everyone is wrong, and you people at ACS are right. Ok? Does that work for you?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I was just thinking that same thought about you.
Put your little taffy ass teams against SEC or Big 12 and make them have to actually beat someone.

"They're 7-2" or whatever. Big deal. Play someone of note.

I'm glad you said that, because I was waiting for it.

Purdue's losses came against Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State. True their out of conference games were against patsies, but then again that's not unusual except for the Pac 10. Though they did blow out all of their OOC patsies (Toledo, Eastern Illinois, Central Michigan).

Let's compare to Alabama, who is 6-3. They play Western Carolina, Florida State, Houston, and Louisiana-Monroe out of conference. Aside from Florida State, same strength as Purdue's OOC. And, btw, 'Bama lost to Florida State. They also struggled to beat Houston, struggled to beat Mississippi in an SEC game.

'Bama's reputation is made on a close win over an overrated at the time Arkansas, a close loss to a Georgia team that has gotten far, far better since, and a close loss to LSU.

I'm not convinced they are better than Purdue. And I think that they'd do fairly well in the SEC. Maybe not 7-3, but not far behind (perhaps 6-4).

The Big XII is the amusing one. Who the Hell has Texas Tech played? Their OOC is Southern Methodist, UTEP, and Rice and lost to Colorado. Oklahoma State lost to Troy... and BIG! And aside from the loss to Oklahoma, Missouri's closest win was by a mere 6 points to Illinois, while they blow out the rest of the Big XII.

[snoopy369]

The problem for the Big Ten is that they play a style that is a bit outdated; spread offenses have encouraged highly skilled position players to go elsewhere, and the fact that Big Ten teams tend to be about the team and not the player, Ohio State aside, means that potential Heisman candidates look for a team on which they can excel as an individual star. Mario Manningham is quite possibly nearly as good as Calvin Johnson, yet where are his heisman votes...

The Big Ten still comes out with a huge number of highly skilled offensive and defensive linemen every year, they just don't have the superstar focused offenses that cause ESPN to drool over them. They do need to change styles a bit though, because of the weakness they have to the spread offense (it's not just Michigan here).

BTW, when does OSU start to lose wins and scholarships and bowl eligibility for the Maurice Clarett fiasco, or does that only apply to teams that lose the national championship game ...