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  • I wish we had someone to verify that this translation fits the line of propaganda actually being swallowed by most Russians...
    Ria Novosti's piece is translated into English by Nataliya Popovych, a civic activist and international communications expert, co-founder of Ukraine Crisis Media Center (UCMC) and founder of One Philosophy consulting group. Back in April last year, we wrote about the inevitability of the denazificat

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    • There are reports of a chemical attack on Mariupol.
      “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

      ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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      • BeBMan
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        The new Russian guy in command has experience from Syria. Just sayin'

    • Originally posted by Geronimo View Post
      I wish we had someone to verify that this translation fits the line of propaganda actually being swallowed by most Russians...
      https://www.linkedin.com/messaging/t...yOGVhXzAxMg==/
      This is sick and definitely shows that any negotiations for peace from the side of Russia cannot be trusted.

      It clearly seems to be genuine ... the original article (in russian) is linked by the translator and google translate shows that the translation at LinkedIn fits the content

      See here:
      https://ria-ru.translate.goog/202204..._x_tr_pto=wapp

      Well, if anyone still wonders how Germany was turned into Nazi-Germany.
      I think that Putins Russia clearly shows how this can happen and to what extent Propaganda is able to deceive people.

      One should also always remember how many similarities Putins actions whos to the actions of Nazi-Germany at the beginning of WW2 ...
      and take into account, that Putin always was interested in history (especially that of WW2)
      Last edited by Proteus_MST; April 12, 2022, 04:38.
      Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
      Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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      • Isn't linkedin mainly known for spam and phishing mails these days?
        Blah

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        • OMG, the comments posted to the original article in Russian are all kinds of shocking, sad and often surreal

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          • Having failed miserably to take Kyiv, looks like the re-directed Russian attack focused on the Donbas is starting...
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            • Originally posted by Geronimo View Post
              OMG, the comments posted to the original article in Russian are all kinds of shocking, sad and often surreal
              Not actually surprising ...
              I mean, Serb for example must count as a Russian who has more informations (of ourtisde Russia) at his fingertips, than the averyge Russian.
              And we know that, nevertheless, Serb is fully into Kremlin propaganda.
              I guess, it must be worse for the average Russian who gets 90% of his informations from Ria Novosti and other Russian propaganda channels.
              They seem to be like the russian equivalent to hardcore Trumpists who get 90% of their informations from Fox News.
              Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
              Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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              • Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
                Then it totally must be Russian tanks ... at least the 2 Matildas ... Russia got those via Lend Lease
                Not in desert camo
                Indifference is Bliss

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                • Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
                  Having failed miserably to take Kyiv, looks like the re-directed Russian attack focused on the Donbas is starting...
                  Moving the goalpoasts. Which is both good as it means the invasion's original version has been a failure indeed, and bad because it will continue, albeit downseized.




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                  • Meanwhile serbia is buying arms like crazy. i thought greece was enough for the balkans

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                    • Perhaps Serbia is buying on behalf of Russia in addition to their own wants.
                      “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                      ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                      • Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post


                        One should also always remember how many similarities Putins actions whos to the actions of Nazi-Germany at the beginning of WW2 ...
                        and take into account, that Putin always was interested in history (especially that of WW2)


                        was at least poland given arms by everyone or was she left literally on her own?

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                        • Originally posted by pchang View Post
                          Perhaps Serbia is buying on behalf of Russia in addition to their own wants.
                          it has bought a ton of chinese stuff but i think russia could get it directly if it wanted it.

                          it has a deal for french jets, I'm positive the french have clauses that won't allow these jets to go to russia

                          she might want to re-take kosovo with russian aid.

                          that's all guesses. noonne know for sure yet

                          but it is confirmed and it is strange

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                          • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post



                            was at least poland given arms by everyone or was she left literally on her own?
                            I think this is more Czechoslovakia. Crimea and the separatist regions are like the Sudetenland, and the current war goes instead of the Munich agreement.
                            Indifference is Bliss

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                            • Bereta_Eder
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                              correct. I know WW2 but from the balkans mainly

                          • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post

                            it has bought a ton of chinese stuff but i think russia could get it directly if it wanted it.

                            it has a deal for french jets, I'm positive the french have clauses that won't allow these jets to go to russia

                            she might want to re-take kosovo with russian aid.

                            that's all guesses. noonne know for sure yet

                            but it is confirmed and it is strange
                            A lot of the electronics in the more modern (or modernized) Russian tanks is French. The French will sell arms and military equipment to pretty much anybody...

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                            France had to be heavily pressured to halt the sale of amphibious assault ships to Russia sheet the Crimean invasion:
                            Indifference is Bliss

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                            • Bereta_Eder
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                              lol... if you think french sell to anyone you should see sweden and germany
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