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What I find amusing in the Moskva story is the Russian version about the cause still being investigated as opposed to it's Ukrainian missiles. As if it would look better if the ship's ammo just exploded on its own...
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The Russians will blame it on careless smoking before they admit the Ukrainians did it."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark TwainComment
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Tell that to the murdered people in Srebrenica…Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post"Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."Comment
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Even Russia now confirmed that the Moskva has sunk (according to TASS while being towed in its damaged state)
It is only a rumor, however, that Ukraina will update the picture on his stamp with this picture:
Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"Comment
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I was told the ship did not sink. It was promoted to a submarine.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of ManComment
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I'm a little surprised they aren't blaming evilness on the part of the Nazis. Perhaps Nazi terrorists remote controlled several speedboats loaded with pregnant hostage civilians and hidden explosives into the Moskva which only failed to stop them because the Moskvas crew feared for the safety of the civilians.Originally posted by Wezil View PostComment
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I doubt very much that it will change the course of the war but I am amused."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark TwainComment
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it won't change the outcome perhaps but surely it changes the course. This thing was extremely active against Mariupol. Surely the sinking of this ship will have strong morale impact if nothing else.Originally posted by Wezil View PostComment
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I have a cousin in Naval Intelligence that once told me that the Slava class were the only Russian ships that the West was truly concerned about. So much for Naval Intelligence when a third rate home grown cruise missile can sink one. The ship was pretty good I guess, but is probably another example of terribly trained Russian military."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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First go tell the grandchildren why their grandma was torn to pieces by your bombsOriginally posted by dannubis View Post
go you little f. they're in belgradeComment
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as a side note the sinking of the russian warship served for me to find out that greece is filled to the rim with exocet missiles and turkey has... exxactly zero.
alwaysa comforting thoughtComment
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also the german (I can't swear too much or I'd say female canine) merkel that little (can't swear) that was in power as long as putin was, is going to have to answer as to why she sold her country to russia dn russian gas. Which is why Ukraine told the german (doesn't it always sound like something beggining with an n) president not to come to ukraine because he's unwelcomed.Comment
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BE, I agree with you on Merkel. I wouldn't be surprised that her East German raising didn't turn out to be deep cover Russian agent kind of stuff!"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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You do know that the Ukranians has had a lot of success using turkish drones - I'm pretty sure that the turkish has a lot of them while greece has noneOriginally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
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