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  • #46
    Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
    I read somewhere if you get the vaccine and have a significant immune response you might have already had the bug, I guess the thinking is your system saw the virus the 1st time and developed a stronger defense. Which is why I suppose anti-biotics are problematic since we just keep 'evolving' stronger critters to make us sick.
    So getting a vaccine is far worse than getting the real virus a second time ? Please stop reading those idiotic sites.

    getting first shot on monday, then I'll be pretty happy
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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    • #47
      no, your vaccine response is stronger if you already had the bug because your system has been primed to meet the challenge

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
        I read somewhere if you get the vaccine and have a significant immune response you might have already had the bug, I guess the thinking is your system saw the virus the 1st time and developed a stronger defense. Which is why I suppose anti-biotics are problematic since we just keep 'evolving' stronger critters to make us sick.
        Ah, detailed medical information from the trusted scientific source of "I read somewhere" followed by the "I guess" and "I suppose" interpretation of what it means.
        Gee, thanks.
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        • Berzerker
          #48.1
          Berzerker commented
          March 26, 2021, 04:46
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          it was a news story on the internet, I dont remember from where
      • #49
        serious thought violation
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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        • #50
          Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
          no, your vaccine response is stronger if you already had the bug because your system has been primed to meet the challenge
          Which you also experience if you get another attack of the virus - stop claiming that it's the fault of the vaccine.
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

          Steven Weinberg

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          • #51
            Originally posted by BlackCat View Post

            Which you also experience if you get another attack of the virus - stop claiming that it's the fault of the vaccine.
            I'm not blaming the vaccine, I'm offering their explanation for the phenomenon. If you had the bug your system has been primed to fight it. So people who get the vaccine afterward already have a primed immune system and the vaccine triggers it. For people who haven't had the bug the vaccine may not trigger the immune system as strongly, hence a 2nd shot may be needed. The 1st shot starts priming the immune system so when the 2nd shot enters the body its met by a larger arsenal of anti-bodies and a more aggressive response.

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            • -Jrabbit
              #51.1
              -Jrabbit commented
              March 26, 2021, 10:27
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              Berz, your whole "I've been reading" and "they say / their explanation" approach to your posts in this thread would have a lot more impact if you would show us your sources. A citation, a link, something. This "people are saying" approach has zero credibility. At least for me. Kthx.
            • Berzerker
              #51.2
              Berzerker commented
              March 26, 2021, 17:49
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              if I remembered where I saw the story I'd post a link
          • #52
            True, and the vaccine doesn't guarantee that you won't get Covid. It's intended to lessen the severity if you do get it. At home vs. struggling to live in a hospital.
            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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            • #53
              This is not an attack on the sacred vaccine.
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              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              • Kidlicious
                #53.1
                Kidlicious commented
                March 26, 2021, 09:19
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                * not sacred to me. Just saying.
              • -Jrabbit
                #53.2
                -Jrabbit commented
                March 26, 2021, 10:20
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                "Sacred" is a religious term associated with worship. There is nothing sacred about the vaccine. It is science.
            • #54
              Ever hear of scientism?
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              • -Jrabbit
                #54.1
                -Jrabbit commented
                March 26, 2021, 11:10
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                This is not scientism, troll.
                Covid vaccines are an evidence-based solution to a public health emergency.
            • #55
              Just saying, if you get mad ....
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              • -Jrabbit
                #55.1
                -Jrabbit commented
                March 26, 2021, 16:25
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                I'm certainly not angry. You're the one trolling here.
            • #56
              Yes I am getting a vaccine
              .
              Greece is the most organized best country in vaccinations. Outpacing France Germany by a landslide.

              Listen Sloww,

              get a vaccine. Tell them if you ever had an anaphylactic shock due to medecine injection before.

              Avoid the astrazeneca vaccine but if it is a choice between doing that and not doing anything, do it

              We're gonna beat this thing

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              • #57
                The CEO of pfizer is greek. I trust him

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                • Berzerker
                  #57.1
                  Berzerker commented
                  March 26, 2021, 17:47
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                  just ask the Trojans about Greeks bearing gifts
              • #58
                Greek-jewish and a very honest man

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                • #59
                  oh I just read the entire thread. So you did it sloww.

                  Good

                  the pfizer one, the best out there for the time being


                  to all others sleep well the night before, it helps avoid the ultra-miniscule chance something will go wrong
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                  • #60
                    Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post

                    to all others sleep well the night before, it helps avoid the ultra-miniscule chance something will go wrong
                    This is valid for everyday life as well
                    Indifference is Bliss

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