Wot no coronavirus thread? Part 2

[Kidlicious]

Tell all that to the friends and family of over 2,900 health care workers who have died trying to help others...
They are real heroes, not old, or sick people. But you have no problem with them dying, simply because a mask is uncomfortable to wear...
Got it... you first, and screw everybody else, even real heroes.

Umm, I have no problem wearing a mask at a hospital or around healthcare workers. I actually don't have a problem wearing a mask in any establishment that requires me to do so. I just don't agree with the government dictating to people. But I'm pretty sure that people going to church contributes nothing to the number of healthcare workers that have died because they probably got the virus at work.

[Berzerker]

nm............

[BlackCat]

Back in the old days the japanese, german and italian soliders managed to kill ~407.000 american soldiers. Even though they occationly used heavy thingies they still needed some 3-4 years to do that. Trump is currently nearing that number in a year and he has done it without doing anything. Quite impressive

[Ming]

Umm, I have no problem wearing a mask at a hospital or around healthcare workers. I actually don't have a problem wearing a mask in any establishment that requires me to do so. I just don't agree with the government dictating to people. But I'm pretty sure that people going to church contributes nothing to the number of healthcare workers that have died because they probably got the virus at work.

Oh... so you see the value of wearing a mask at a hospital, but not around other Americans.
And by the way, it's a FACT that religious services have acted as super spreader events... and where do you think sick people go to get treated... you know the same place those health care works work, where they have died from being exposed to the virus.
So try again... you only care about your own comfort, and not about your fellow Americans health. They can die just so you don't have to wear a mask.

[Kidlicious]

Oh... so you see the value of wearing a mask at a hospital, but not around other Americans.
And by the way, it's a FACT that religious services have acted as super spreader events... and where do you think sick people go to get treated... you know the same place those health care works work, where they have died from being exposed to the virus.
So try again... you only care about your own comfort, and not about your fellow Americans health. They can die just so you don't have to wear a mask.

No. I don't have to try again because you have no real argument. You're accusing me of not carrying if people die, which is not a real argument. So I'm not going to try again. You try again.

And I don't think lockdowns prevent health care workers from being exposed to the virus. That's a bit absurd.

[Ming]

Gee.. if lockdowns help limit the number of cases, that lessens the number of patients that have the potential to expose health care workers... so what is absurd in your inability to see that.
And yes, I am accusing your of not caring if people die. You keep trying to minimize the numbers of deaths, which is a fact. You have repeatedly either yawned when the numbers are posted, or posted that people die of other things, or some other nonsense.
The less cases out there, the less people will die. FACT.
More cases will lead to more deaths. FACT
Not wearing a mask and not following the common sense guidelines established by Trumps Government leads to more cases and more deaths. FACT
You think you have a right not to follow those guidelines. FACT
So you care about yourself than you do about others. FACT

So yeah, try again.

[Kidlicious]

"So you care about yourself than you do about others. FACT"

You shouldn't talk about facts if you don't know what they are.

[Ming]

You seem to be doing a great job of ignoring actual facts...
Your actions betray you. If you don't wear a mask and follow the common sense guidelines established by the Trump Government, you increase the risk of spreading the disease. Proven by research FACT.
And you can claim all you want that you don't have it, and therefore can't spread it. But you COULD have it and not even know it. FACT.
So try again.

[Kidlicious]

It's not even about me. You seem to be hysterical. It's not about you either. It's about Fauci and the rest of the people making the decision to harm people with lockdowns. They say they did no analysis of the harm they were doing and comparing that to the harm they were preventing. That in itself is a scandal. Fauci is a damn criminal as far as I'm concerned. But history will tell if what they are doing is doing more harm than that harm that they are stopping.

[Ming]

Research HAS Been done. The spread of the disease can be slowed down by mask wearing and following the common sense guidelines from Trump's Government. FACT
So you deciding that you don't need to wear a mask is about YOU.
And actions like yours and a many many other people are putting fellow Americans at risk of disease and death. FACT
You care more about yourselves than other.
And your typical response is to try to change the subject, call people criminals, throw some insults around... all standard fare from you.
But NONE of that changes the basics truths.
Not wearing a mask increases the risk of spreading the disease = FACT

But keep just posting your normal nonsense while not actually defending your putting other people at risk over yourself.
Or just man up and admit you care more about yourself than others, because that's what you actions PROVE.

[Kidlicious]

You just don't get it. The lockdown harms society. Looking at studies on mask wearing has nothing to do with decision making on taking away people's rights and wrecking the economy.

[Ming]

Gee... now it's about lock downs...
Lock downs or no lock downs has nothing to do with you not wearing a mask and endangering other people.
More people are dying every day, and all you are concerned about is your own personal comfort, and not caring one damn bit about others.

[Berzerker]

Jim Jordan (R-Oh) stepped in it by asking how the Founders would have responded

Critics noted that the Founders had in fact followed strict measures to stifle infectious disease outbreaks based on the science of their time.

During the American Revolution, George Washington worked to contain a smallpox epidemic by isolating anyone suspected of infection and limiting outside contact with his army. In 1776, when the British withdrew from Boston, Washington mandated that only soldiers that had already been infected be allowed into the city.

In 1796, in response to a deadly yellow fever outbreak, Congress passed the first federal quarantine law, which was signed by Washington. It authorized the federal government to help states enforce quarantines as necessary.

That was followed on Twitter by more examples of the Founders locking down.

[Kidlicious]

Gee... now it's about lock downs...
Lock downs or no lock downs has nothing to do with you not wearing a mask and endangering other people.
More people are dying every day, and all you are concerned about is your own personal comfort, and not caring one damn bit about others.

No. It's been about the lockdowns the whole time. Go back and look at my posts.

[Kidlicious]

Jim Jordan (R-Oh) stepped in it by asking how the Founders would have responded



That was followed on Twitter by more examples of the Founders locking down.

Yes. I'm familiar with that. The fatality rate was much higher with those outbreaks though.

[Kidlicious]

McConnell has introduced bill giving $2000, changing Section 230, and investigating election fraud. Trump wins again JR and Ming.

"McConnell introduces competing bill for $2K stimulus checks - One America News Tuesday, December 29, 2020 In an effort to compete with the Democrat-approved bill, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell introduced his own bill to provide $2,000 stimulus checks. McConnell proposed the new bill on Tuesday, shortly after he rejected a request for unanimous consent on the House’s bill. #UPDATE McConnell blocks Schumer’s unanimous consent request for $2K stimulus checks – https://t.co/jDy0hUSGhZ #OANN https://t.co/cqOu8JSx25 — One America News (@OANN) December 29, 2020 Unlike the Democrat approved bill, however, McConnell’s version would repeal Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. Additionally, it would set up a commission to study voter fraud. This came after Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.) vowed to delay a vote to override President Trump’s veto of the NDAA until the Senate votes on the stimulus payments. McConnell’s bill could provide a work-around to that filibuster. Unless Republicans have a death wish, and it is also the right thing to do, they must approve the $2000 payments ASAP. $600 IS NOT ENOUGH! Also, get rid of Section 230 – Don’t let Big Tech steal our Country, and don’t let the Democrats steal the Presidential Election. Get tough! https://t.co/GMotstu7OI — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 29, 2020"