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[Kidlicious]

"Lindsey Graham: Possible ballot harvesting in Pennsylvania involving 25,000 nursing home residents

By Daniel Chaitin
November 10, 2020 - 6:30 AM









Sen. Lindsey Graham said on Monday he has learned about potential ballot harvesting in Pennsylvania nursing homes.

The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee revealed that there were up to 25,000 cases that are being looked at as Pennsylvania remains a state President Trump's team hopes to turn its way after major media outlets called it for his Democratic opponent, Joe Biden, giving him enough electoral votes to secure the presidency.

"I’ve got more information. We're now finding potentially that 25,000 nursing home residents in different nursing homes requested mail-in ballots at the exact same time," the South Carolina Republican said on Fox News.

"You can’t ballot harvest in Pennsylvania," Graham added. "What are the odds that 25,000 people in different locations of the same age group requested at the same time a ballot? Somebody is up to no good in these nursing homes."

Graham did not present any evidence, but he did allude to critics of Trump for refusing to concede the election as he awaits legal challenges and recounts to play out.

"We don’t need their permission to look into these allegations. We owe it to those who voted for President Trump and the country at large to test this system. If we don’t deal with voting by mail in 2020, we will never win the White House again," he said.

Trump currently trails Biden by about 45,000 votes.

There are roughly 700 nursing facilities and 1,200 personal care homes in Pennsylvania, according to a Philadelphia Inquirer report last month on concerns about disenfranchisement of older voters during the coronavirus pandemic. As Graham mentioned, ballot collection is illegal in the swing state. The Trump campaign lost a legal effort to ban drop boxes.

Graham has also called for a Justice Department investigation into voting irregularities after receiving a sworn affidavit from a Pennsylvania postal worker alleging that postal supervisory officials hatched a plan to backdate ballots mailed after the election."

[EPW]

The article also spoke about how there's NO EVIDENCE. But investigate away.

[Kidlicious]

I think I already mentioned this. First you need reasonable suspicion. That's what this is. Then you look for evidence. Reasonable suspicion isn't nothing.

[EPW]

REQUESTING is not COLLECTING. There is nothing here. But go ahead, investigate.

[EPW]

Sorry, I was a little slow on picking up that the USPS sorting mail and "ratios" was complete misdirection. Obviously mail in ballots are counted just the same as other ballots, just in a different order in some states.

[Kidlicious]

Sorry, I was a little slow on picking up that the USPS sorting mail and "ratios" was complete misdirection. Obviously mail in ballots are counted just the same as other ballots, just in a different order in some states.

No. In-person votes do not get shuffled.

[EPW]

It doesn't matter if they are shuffled or not.

[Ming]

Kid... "Potential", "Possible" = proof
but yet again, no evidence provided.
Let us know when there is actual evidence that a Judge will go along with.
Because so far, none have.

[EPW]

"shuffled" vs "unshuffled" ballots is evidence of nothing. It did confuse me for a few minutes, which is probably the real goal.

[Kidlicious]

Kid... "Potential", "Possible" = proof
but yet again, no evidence provided.
Let us know when there is actual evidence that a Judge will go along with.
Because so far, none have.

The Supreme Court can call for a recount or a re-vote in PA or other states. Or they can, and probably will, throw out the votes that were not post marked in time. I believe they did not obey the request by Alito to separate them. That's not good.

[Dinner]

Ming, courts are very well positioned and capable of sorting this stuff out. The lame stuff with no proof will be laughed out of court while anything with actual merit will be thoroughly investigated based upon the evidence. Remember it was the second half of December before Al Gore conceded so we have time for the courts to do their job. That is the most transparent and thus best way to handle things. To do anything else just gives oxygen to unfounded claims.

So why get mad? Just let the system work.

[-Jrabbit]

Gore was a difference of a few hundred votes in one state.

Sadly - pathetically - the leadership of the GOP is providing oxygen to these unfounded claims, encouraging wack-a-doos like Kid. It's toxic and should be slapped down. One week in, there are literally no substantive claims. So count the votes. Post the results. Done.

Recounts? Sure, according to law. But once the votes are posted, the transition should begin.

[Ming]

The Supreme Court can call for a recount or a re-vote in PA or other states. Or they can, and probably will, throw out the votes that were not post marked in time. I believe they did not obey the request by Alito to separate them. That's not good.

Again... please let us know when something like that ACTUALLY HAPPENS... or even a case where the judges didn't throw it out... or a case where there is actual proof.
So far, you have offered up NO PROOF of your wild ass claims, and neither has anybody else.

[Kidlicious]

"shuffled" vs "unshuffled" ballots is evidence of nothing. It did confuse me for a few minutes, which is probably the real goal.

You're right. It's not evidence. The evidence is that all of the mail-in ballots should have been counted with the same ratio thoughout time, because they are shuffled. The evidence of fraud is that that ratio changed in favor of Biden.

[EPW]

The post office does not count the votes. Those ballots are delivered to DESTINATIONS which are in DIFFERENT COUNTIES which are going to have DIFFERENT VOTE RATIOS depending on the electorate of the DIFFERENT COUNTIES.

[Kidlicious]

No. They all get delivered to distribution centers where they are shuffled. So the ratios are the same.

[EPW]

THEY ARE DELIVERED TO THEIR DESTINATIONS. THEY ARE NOT "DELIVERED" TO THE DISTRIBUTION CENTERS. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

[Ming]

So why get mad? Just let the system work.

Not mad at all... And yes, I want the system to work, and I want ALL LEGAL ballots to be counted correctly.
But so far, the system has been working and judges have been tossing out the cases that have no merit.
None have had enough merit so far...

[Kidlicious]

Again... please let us know when something like that ACTUALLY HAPPENS... or even a case where the judges didn't throw it out... or a case where there is actual proof.
So far, you have offered up NO PROOF of your wild ass claims, and neither has anybody else.

That's for the Supreme Court to decide.

[Ming]

And has a case been brought to them yet?
Is there any proof yet that merits such an action yet?
Until then... you can keep babbling all you want.

[Kidlicious]

Not mad at all... And yes, I want the system to work, and I want ALL LEGAL ballots to be counted correctly.
But so far, the system has been working and judges have been tossing out the cases that have no merit.
None have had enough merit so far...

Actually they got Democrats to fix their ballots, but they didn't do that for Republicans. That's against the law, and part of the lawsuit.

[Ming]

Let us know when one of the suits goes in front of judge, and they provide actual proof that will merit the judge to move forward.
So far.... NADA

[Kidlicious]

And has a case been brought to them yet?
Is there any proof yet that merits such an action yet?
Until then... you can keep babbling all you want.

Suit was filled. It will go to Supreme Court.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-request-recount-wisconsin