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Originally posted by Dinner View PostI disagree. It is not absurd for people to want to control their own destiny especially when you see the EU is anti-democratic, authoritarian in nature, and always seeking to concentrate more power in it's own unelected hands. The UK really does want more free trade while the EU is highly protectionist in nature so it has always been a bad fit.
They "just" want it without having the ballast of all the other things that an EU membership entails, like having to pay "membership fees", or having people from eastern europe being allowed as workers in the country.
The UK wants <all the benefits of the EU, without also accepting its liabilities ... and they have been led astray by populists like Farage and Johnson into believing, that this would be possible, because "we are the UK ... and if we start to negotiate, the EU will cave in very soon and give us all we want"
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I disagree. It is not absurd for people to want to control their own destiny especially when you see the EU is anti-democratic, authoritarian in nature, and always seeking to concentrate more power in it's own unelected hands. The UK really does want more free trade while the EU is highly protectionist in nature so it has always been a bad fit.
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For a long time Britain was usually seen as more level-headed, pragmatic. It's almost tragic to see it to suffer from that kind of ideological overload that seems to be all the rage in some parts of the pol_elite/media/etc. for years now.
There could be plenty of legitimate points made re the EU or whatever, but the hysteria and division over Brexit is really an absurdity. And it does have a real impact - it completely dominates the political landscape and consumes time and effort that could be spend better elsewhere.
Blarghl.
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Greece continues to shine as a paragorn of stability, responsibility and seriousness when compared to Great Britain. I shudder to think dinner supports such clowns of democratic charade.(don't care either way, just that it is so funny that whatever dinner supports ends up becoming a clown ) . On the point at hand, two questions: a) what is all this junk they have in their parliement? stolen goods from hard working people like the marbles of parthenon only it's sh!t? And also, what is this with the border in ireland. who wants it soft, who hard? (I'd suppose she would want it hard
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Speak softly and carry a big stick....The extraordinary moment Labour MP Lloyd Russell-Moyle picks up the mace and walks it over the line during proceedings in the House of Commons. The parliamen...
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If they aren't going to vote for it, then they don't get a say in it!
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Eh, May gave up and cancelled the vote. Who knows what will happen now.
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Originally posted by Dry View Post
Maybe we should have some regulation for UK newspapers. They should have some composition notice like "contain 99% horsesh*t"
Few in the U.K. believe the press* but the issue moreover is one of saturation. Repeat a lie over and over and over and you will think it true subconsciously due to a familiarity with the lie being conveyed, even if you hear it and know it’s false at a conscious level the first x times.
* more accurately, heavily sceptical and want to hear from more than one news source.
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The first thing after the fact was the Priest.
Like:
Fact:
There was a big flash in the sky and suddenly this tree burns
Priest:
This was Thor/YHWH/Shiwa who expressed his displeasure ... you need to sacrifice 2 maidens and 10 pieces of livestock to her in my temple
Fact:
The small light that usually is seen in the sky is suddenly so dark
Priest:
That is Yughquash the world eater threatening us all. You need to sacrifice 2 maidens and 10 pieces of livestock in my temple in order to help YHWH/ Cthulhu / Odin fight Yughquash
Fact:
Last year there were lots of fruits on the plants ... this year there only is meagre harvest
Priest:
YOu know the drill ... already give me my 2 maidens and 10 pieces of livestock
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Originally posted by BeBro View Post
It's that age-old question: what came first -- the fact or the expert?
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