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  • Economic Left/Right: -5.5
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38


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    • Ben, keep it up with the mud slinging. I am in favor of human rights. Keep it up with the comment about tossing people out of helicopters. Last I checked your Catholic Church condoned Argentina's military regime that did that. They even had priests on planes reading people their last rites.

      Reread my score. I was more socially left than you and that means more strongly in favor of human rights. But the test was severely lacking in many regards.

      https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily...-the-dirty-war
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • If I was in favor of human rights violations wouldn't I have scored somewhere in the authoritarian quadrant lol? First off, ask me questions about refugees, supporting the dictatorship in Saudi Arabia with bad arms deals (especially after such regime had a Turk murdered), the treatment of women in developing and developed countries and environmental justice.

        In these topics, political compass was severely lacking. It just isn't a good test. It also has a severe right wing bias with the way certain questions are phrased. If you want to have a nonbiased test, try to not ask loaded questions.

        Here is my score again for references sake:

        Economic Left/Right: -7.75
        Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.97


        That just doesn't seem to be the score of someone willing to justify human right abuses like the catholic church did in Argentina.

        https://www.globalresearch.ca/new-po...ty-war/5326816

        Complicit. And it wasn't just Pope Francis, but the rest of the church at the time.
        Last edited by Giancarlo; October 13, 2018, 08:24.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • I was more socially left than you and that means more strongly in favor of human rights.
          Depends entirely on how you choose to define human rights. I'd argue that you don't because you reject the right to life of the unborn. By my standards, I'd have a hard time putting you above Hitler because his count was only about 6 or 7 million Jews.

          There's been about 60+ million American children killed because of Roe.
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          • I mean you *could* argue that the unborn aren't legal persons, but the Hitler argued that Jews weren't legal persons either... that didn't go over so well for him.
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            • Uncle Sparky
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              You could argue that your hair should not be cut... several religions do, but it would be a stupid argument, like most religious bs.

          • Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
            Ben, keep it up with the mud slinging. I am in favor of human rights. Keep it up with the comment about tossing people out of helicopters. Last I checked your Catholic Church condoned Argentina's military regime that did that. They even had priests on planes reading people their last rites.

            Reread my score. I was more socially left than you and that means more strongly in favor of human rights. But the test was severely lacking in many regards.

            https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily...-the-dirty-war
            Pinochet also loved to take journalists and political opponents for helicopter rides where they got tossed out halfway through.
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            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post

              There's been about 60+ million American children killed because of Roe.
              How many abortions happened before Roe? I am suspicious that Roe probably caused less than a 50% change. The most important thing to do is change hearts and minds and remove the need for abortion (by supporting women's rights, sex education, access to contraception and so on).

              JM
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              • How many abortions happened before Roe? I am suspicious that Roe probably caused less than a 50% change. The most important thing to do is change hearts and minds and remove the need for abortion (by supporting women's rights, sex education, access to contraception and so on).
                Prior to Roe, Dr. Nathanson has some interesting numbers. He used to run an illegal abortion clinic so his numbers are credible.

                Former abortion-rights activist Bernard Nathanson admits that he and his cofounders of NARAL fabricated the figure that a million women were getting illegal abortions in America each year. The average, he says, was actually ninety-eight thousand per year.
                Which is about 10% of the rate now which runs about 1 million per year.

                Contrary to popular belief increases in contraception usage actually increased abortion rates. Both rates increased side by side until 1990 or so. The abortion rate has dropped some since it's peak in 1992, but less so because the proportion of abortions to births has changed, but because of larger demographic changes, such as the aging population, fewer women of childbearing age, and thus, fewer pregnancies.

                Edit, in response to Sparky, official deaths were around 150-200 a year. Nathanson stated that a better figure would be between 300 to 400 a year prior to legalization.
                Last edited by Ben Kenobi; October 14, 2018, 22:12.
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                • Uncle Sparky
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                  How many people died having illegal abortions?

              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                That was addressed at Giancarlo, not you.
                Liar. Let's see what you actually said:

                Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                Everyone else here is a crazy leftwinger so from your vantage point I'm so far to your right.
                "tout comprendre, c'est tout pardonner"

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                • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post

                  Depends entirely on how you choose to define human rights. I'd argue that you don't because you reject the right to life of the unborn. By my standards, I'd have a hard time putting you above Hitler because his count was only about 6 or 7 million Jews.

                  There's been about 60+ million American children killed because of Roe.
                  How many millions died at the hands of Christofascists like you?

                  You are a bloody fool. You don't care about kids afterthey are born. After they are born, they are ****ed. No health care. Your fascist party is even trying to cancel a federal health care program for sick kids with cancer.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • Originally posted by Dinner View Post

                    Pinochet also loved to take journalists and political opponents for helicopter rides where they got tossed out halfway through.
                    The Catholic Church was also complicit with that.

                    Why? They were afraid of the spread of socialism so they backed these dictatorships, regardless of human rights violations. Same thing happened in Brazil (and could happen again if the fascist wins there - extremely low turnout allowed him to go to a run off).

                    The picture of Pope Francis and Rafael Videla says it all to me.
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post

                      How many abortions happened before Roe? I am suspicious that Roe probably caused less than a 50% change. The most important thing to do is change hearts and minds and remove the need for abortion (by supporting women's rights, sex education, access to contraception and so on).

                      JM
                      I don't consider abortion a need, unless possibly you got pregnant because of rape. I'm not opposed to allowing women choice in that situation.

                      But what you are claiming is like suggesting we stop making people need to mug people, because they are poor.

                      comment: I know that's unclear. I have a health issue right now and can't articulate.
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                      • Aeson
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                        Sorry to hear that, hope you regain your health soon.

                      • Kidicious
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                        Thank you

                    • Being insufficiently developed to survive outside of a womb is somehow like being Jewish

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                      • Kidiot: If I say something ridiculous and/or vague, don't blame me... I have a health issue.

                        Jeez... Take a break from the Internet for a weekend. Go take a walk. Or the beach if you don't live in a landlocked area.

                        You know what I did yesterday? I went to a concert festival... That lasted a whole six hours, featuring all time low and dashboard confessional. Great value for my money.

                        Took my mind off work and life for a few moments.

                        Take a break. This is honest, nonpolitical advice. Take a moment in your life and slow down.
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • How many millions died at the hands of Christofascists like you?
                          Ah, the usual 'whataboutism'.

                          Still doesn't change my point. If you sincerely believe in human rights, why do you believe that it's ok to kill children in the womb?

                          You are a bloody fool. You don't care about kids afterthey are born. After they are born, they are ****ed. No health care. Your fascist party is even trying to cancel a federal health care program for sick kids with cancer.
                          How am I a fool? None of us would be here today if we were aborted. We can't exercise our human rights if we're not born. Right to life must come first.
                          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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