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  • This is bullsh1t hand-waving: Giuliani in his hysterical glory.

    The content of the Mueller investigation remains critically important. I don't care whether or not there was collusion, but I do care about crimes committed and actual evidence. Frankly, all Americans deserve - and should demand if necessary - to learn the results. Ending the investigation or preventing proper legal action on its findings would be prima facie evidence of obstruction of justice.

    If Donald has done nothing wrong, he should be anxious to clear his name. So why is he trying to subvert a very successful and promising investigation by the FBI, one that has produced numerous guilty pleas and indictments? Claiming the entire investigation is "compromised" because of some personal emails came to light is a transparent attempt to prevent the facts from coming to light. This is not the strategy of an innocent man.

    Face it: He has acted like a guilty man from jump street. When Trump and his surrogates go on these "no collusion" rampages, it's quite telling that they never say "Trump committed no crimes." It's just, "no collusion!" Seriously, so what? There are many possible crimes. Personally, I strongly suspect his financial dealings are where the damning evidence lies. But unless the Mueller investigation is allowed to run its course and execute the rule of law regarding its findings, we will never know.

    Let's just get to the facts, find out what happened, and get it over with. Either way, we all have to live with the consequences.
    Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
    RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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    • Funny how you say the President "acted guilty from the start" and this is "just some emails." And now you don't even care if it was collusion.

      I knew it wasn't collusion from the start. I knew they spied and abused power. You ridiculed me from the start. I don't care what you THINK. You are consumed by hatred.
      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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      • So, what you say is, if there are crimes commited by Trump, that could be brought into the light by the Mueller investigation, then you don't want them to come into the light
        Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
        Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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        • Yes, because he's scared of actual facts.
          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • There is no legitimate pretext for this investigation. Of course that doesn't matter if you don't believe in any principles of justice.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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            • Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
              So, what you say is, if there are crimes commited by Trump, that could be brought into the light by the Mueller investigation, then you don't want them to come into the light
              Most likely no crimes have been committed. Witch hunts rarely find any actual witches.
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              • Oh, there are plenty of witches.

                5 guilty pleas.
                17 indictments.
                Campaign manager in solitary due for witness tampering.

                And we still haven't heard the good stuff.
                Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                • Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
                  Oh, there are plenty of witches.

                  5 guilty pleas.
                  17 indictments.
                  Campaign manager in solitary due for witness tampering.

                  And we still haven't heard the good stuff.
                  You only have actual witches when you convict people of collusion.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                  - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                  • How many guilty pleas and indictments were produced in the multiple investigations into Benghazi and Hillary's email server? Zero. Yet they went on for years, and certain "lock her up" elements of the right continue to beg for more.

                    By contrast, the Mueller investigation into election interference has nailed several individuals and companies. You seem to support ignoring any facts or evidence uncovered by the FBI.

                    Why do you want criminals to walk free?
                    Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                    RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                    • Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
                      How many guilty pleas and indictments were produced in the multiple investigations into Benghazi and Hillary's email server? Zero. Yet they went on for years, and certain "lock her up" elements of the right continue to beg for more.

                      By contrast, the Mueller investigation into election interference has nailed several individuals and companies. You seem to support ignoring any facts or evidence uncovered by the FBI.

                      Why do you want criminals to walk free?
                      Why do you want investigations conducted without pretext? Why do you want the FBI to be biased and corrupt, not following their own guidelines?

                      I didn't say that I wanted criminals to go free. But I do want the investigation wrapped up. I don't want these criminals in the FBI rewarded for their crimes against America. We need to concentrate on investigating the government.

                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                      • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

                        You only have actual witches when you convict people of collusion.
                        #noTrueWitches

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                        • There is collusion going on right now. Everything Tump has done with respect to foreign policy and trade has been a big benefit to Putin’s goals.
                          “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                          ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                          • Oh really? I heard that he armed Ukraine.
                            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                            • With what? M1s, F16s, Patriots? Anything and quantities that would make a real difference?
                              “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                              ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                              • How can there be no pretext? That's just another BS excuse, and not supported by the facts. Here's a fact: The entire US intelligence community reached the conclusion that our election was tampered with. That's what is being investigated.

                                The Mueller investigation has been going on since May '17, when Trump's DOJ hired lifelong Republican and former FBI head Mueller to head the investigation into Russian influence on the election. This is a legitimate investigation, initiated under Trump's watch (after he fired Comey because, "the Russian thing"). It should be permitted to continue to its natural conclusion.

                                I just want the FBI to do their job. You, as an American, should be eager to learn what they have discovered.

                                But instead, you accuse the FBI of bias, corruption, and "crimes against America."

                                We need to concentrate on investigating the government.
                                :LOL: Give me a break. The Republicans control the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of government. They run the Justice Department. Trump appointed Christopher Wray to replace Comey as FBI head. Republicans appointed Mueller. In short, this is their mess. So either they are lying or they are incompetent. Or both.
                                Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                                RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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