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  • Originally posted by rah View Post
    I read both articles
    You read both headlines.
    Go figure.
    I don't read crap.
    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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    • A more centrist take on it.
      Originally posted by BBC
      Rashida Tlaib rejects Israel's offer of 'humanitarian' visit

      US congresswoman Rashida Tlaib has rejected Israel's offer to allow her to make a "humanitarian" visit to her grandmother in the occupied West Bank.

      Ms Tlaib said that she could not comply with the "oppressive conditions" being imposed.

      A critic of Israeli policy towards the Palestinians, she had been blocked by Israel from making an official visit.

      But it said a private visit could go ahead after she agreed "not to promote the boycott of Israel during her stay".

      .....

      A statement from the Israeli interior ministry on Thursday confirmed the entry ban, saying it was "inconceivable that those who wish to harm the state of Israel while visiting would be granted entry".

      Ms Tlaib and Ms Omar have voiced support for the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) campaign - which aims to put economic pressure on the Israeli government - because of their opposition to Israel's policies towards Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

      The entry ban was widely criticised - including by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Aipac), a prominent pro-Israel lobbying group.

      On Friday, Israel's interior ministry said it had given Ms Tlaib permission for what it termed a humanitarian visit to family after she had promised in a letter to "respect conditions imposed by Israel".

      Israeli media published Ms Tlaib's letter, which said: "I would like to request admittance to Israel in order to visit my relatives, and specifically my grandmother, who is in her 90s.

      "I will respect any restrictions and will not promote boycotts against Israel during my visit."

      What does Tlaib say now?

      In a series of tweets on Friday, she categorically rejected Israel's offer - even though it meant she would not see her grandmother.

      "Silencing me & treating me like a criminal is not what she wants for me," she said of her grandmother.

      "It would kill a piece of me. I have decided that visiting my grandmother under these oppressive conditions stands against everything I believe in."

      She said that winning her seat in Congress had given Palestinian people "hope that someone will finally speak the truth about the inhumane conditions".

      In response, Israeli Interior Minister Aryeh Deri said: "Last night, she sent me a letter asking her to allow her to visit her 90-year-old grandmother 'because this could be my last chance to meet her'.

      "I approved it on humanitarian grounds, but it turns out that it was a provocation to embarrass Israel. Her hatred for Israel overcomes her love for her grandmother."

      Why were the two women banned?

      Israeli law blocks entrance visas to any foreigner who calls for any type of boycott that targets Israel - either economic, cultural or academic.

      The law attempts to suppress the BDS movement, which has drawn support across Europe and the US.

      Israeli officials had earlier said they would make an exception for the elected US officials, before backtracking.

      According to US media, their trip was meant to begin on Sunday, and would have included a stop at one of the most sensitive sites in the region - the hilltop plateau in Jerusalem known to Jews as the Temple Mount and Muslims as Haram al-Sharif.

      They also planned to visit Israeli and Palestinian peace activists, and travel to Jerusalem and the West Bank cities of Bethlehem, Ramallah and Hebron.

      ....
      The House also voted to condemn hate speech in a move directed at Ms Omar for her criticism of US support for Israel.

      "It's all about the Benjamins baby," Ms Omar had tweeted in a reference to the US $100 note, leading to allegations that she was using a negative stereotype for Jews.

      She later apologised, and said the tweet was meant to criticise lobbyists, not Jews. She also thanked "Jewish allies and colleagues who are educating me on the painful history of anti-Semitic tropes".

      Has this happened before?

      An Israeli ban on foreign dignitaries is rare but not unprecedented.

      Makarim Wibisono, a UN special rapporteur on human rights, was denied entry in 2015 after Israel said his mandate was anti-Israel.

      And Fouad Ahmad Assadi of Spain's Socialist Party was barred from entering Israel last month because he was deemed a threat to national security. The Lebanese-born politician had travelled there to participate in the annual Socialist International conference in Tel Aviv and Ramallah - but he was denied entry at Ben Gurion Airport.

      However, no members of US Congress had been blocked before now.

      Israel often hosts congressional delegations. Earlier this month, 41 Democrats and 31 Republicans attended a visit sponsored by Aipac.
      Rashida Tlaib said permission to see family in the West Bank was subject to "oppressive conditions".
      I am not delusional! Now if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go dance with the purple wombat who's playing show-tunes in my coffee cup!
      Rules are like Egg's. They're fun when thrown out the window!
      Difference is irrelevant when dosage is higher than recommended!

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      • I hadn't read the Fox News either. But this is what the ambassador said "I approved her request as a gesture of goodwill on a humanitarian basis, but it was just a provocative request, aimed at bashing the State of Israel. Apparently her hate for Israel overcomes her love for her grandmother."

        That's accurate to me when you look at what happened. Tlaib asked to visit her grandmother. Request granted. Then she claimed that she was being oppressed because she wasn't allowed to protest the existence of Israel.

        I just assume that the NYTIMES put out an article that was too long and then at the very end they say that she asked to visit her grandmother.
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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        • And something far more Newsworthy!
          Originally posted by BBC
          Raccoon gets stuck in Florida vending machine

          Things didn't quite go to plan when a hungry raccoon tried to pilfer a snack from a vending machine at a Florida high school.
          https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us...ending-machine
          I am not delusional! Now if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go dance with the purple wombat who's playing show-tunes in my coffee cup!
          Rules are like Egg's. They're fun when thrown out the window!
          Difference is irrelevant when dosage is higher than recommended!

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          • The BBC article is bad too. It doesn't say that Tlaib requested to visit her grandmother.

            edit: yes it does. In the middle.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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            • National Review


              This should be a national scandal.

              To the extent that I care at all about Israel blocking entry to two U.S. congresswomen who partner with anti-Semites who seek its destruction, I agree with critics who argue that Bibi Netanyahu should not appear to bow to Donald Trump’s tweeted demands and that blocking Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar from visiting Israel handed them a short-term propaganda victory. But that’s not the most important part of the story.

              The most important element of the story is the fact that two American congresswomen shunned a bipartisan congressional delegation to Israel to go on an independent trip to Israel sponsored by vicious anti-Semites. Another important element of the story is that, as of today, the mainstream media have whitewashed Omar and Tlaib’s vile associations.


              Writing yesterday, the Washington Postsaid that “Omar and Tlaib’s trip to Jerusalem and the West Bank was planned by Miftah, a nonprofit organization headed by Palestinian lawmaker and longtime peace negotiator Hanan Ashrawi.” The New York Times described it as an organization “headed by a longtime Palestinian lawmaker.” In its editorial, the New York Times editorial board identified it as a group “that promotes ‘global awareness and knowledge of Palestinian realities.’”

              This is a whitewash. Thanks to a Twitter thread from the Washington Examiner’s Seth Mandel — who pointed to multiple additional sources — I started looking at the articles and views published on the Miftah website, and it was like peeling an onion of evil. There was layer upon layer of vile anti-Semitism.

              First, the group actually published blood libel, posting an article that accused “the Jews [of using] the blood of Christians in the Jewish Passover.” When pro-Israel bloggers condemned the article, Miftah first claimed that the attacks against the piece were part of a “smear campaign” and minimized the reference to blood libel as merely “briefly addressed.”



              It was just a light sprinkling of blood libel. Move along, nothing to see here.

              The organization later issued a more complete apology, but we’ve barely gotten started with this vile group. It’s also published an American neo-Nazi treatise called “Who Rules America: The Alien Grip on Our News and Entertainment Media Must Be Broken” (archived here).

              As Vox’s Jane Coaston explained, “the original source was National Vanguard, a neo-Nazi group founded in 2005 in Charlottesville by members of the National Alliance.” The National Alliance “was for a time the best financed and best organized white nationalist group in America.” And to give you a sense of its ideology, here are two paragraphs from the treatise:
              The Jew-controlled entertainment media have taken the lead in persuading a whole generation that homosexuality is a normal and acceptable way of life; that there is nothing at all wrong with White women dating or marrying Black men, or with White men marrying Asian women; that all races are inherently equal in ability and character — except that the character of the White race is suspect because of a history of oppressing other races; and that any effort by Whites at racial self-preservation is reprehensible.

              We must oppose the further spreading of this poison among our people, and we must break the power of those who are spreading it. It would be intolerable for such power to be in the hands of any alien minority, with values and interests different from our own. But to permit the Jews, with their 3,000-year history of nation-wrecking, from ancient Egypt to Russia, to hold such power over us is tantamount to race suicide. Indeed, the fact that so many White Americans today are so filled with a sense of racial guilt and self-hatred that they actively seek the death of their own race is a deliberate consequence of Jewish media control.

              I look forward to hearing apologists argue that these statements are merely critiques of “Israeli policies.”

              But that’s not all, not by a long shot. The group celebrates terrorists, including an evil woman who helped murder 13 Israeli children. In an article titled “Let Us Honor Our Own,” a Miftah contributor describes Dalal Al Mughrabi as “a Palestinian fighter who was killed during a military operation against Israel in 1978” and as one of the Palestinian people’s “national heroes.”

              The so-called “military operation” is more widely known as the “Coastal Road Massacre,” a bus hijacking that resulted in the deaths of 38 Israeli civilians, including 13 children.

              Al Mughrabi is hardly the only terrorist Miftah celebrates. It described female suicide bomber Wafa Idrees as the “the beginning of a string of Palestinian women dedicated to sacrificing their lives for the cause.” It singles out for recognition Hanadi Jaradat, a woman who blew herself up in a restaurant, killing 21 people (including four children).

              The founder of Miftah herself, Ms. Ashrawi, excused jihadist violence by telling an interviewer that “you cannot somehow adopt the language of either the international community or the occupier by describing anybody who resists as terrorist.”

              And of course Miftah published an article asking whether Israel was a proper homeland for the Jewish people:

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              Last edited by Kidlicious; August 16, 2019, 16:46.
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              • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                So Tlaib doesn't give a damn about her sick grandmother after all. Ming was fooled again.

                Gee... Kidiot lying once again. Please post ANYTHING I said that I was "fooled" about when it come to Tlaib.
                I said she is welcome to her opinion as you are yours.
                But this comes as no surprise since it seems to be your only tactic these days
                Keep on Civin'
                RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                • You don't just say people like that are welcome to their opinion or that they should be allowed to travel to a country that they want to destroy.
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                  • I can't even think of an equivalent. Israel seems to be expected to let them travel there and spread hatred for Israel. What other country is going to do that. I don't know if you can come to the US and do that.
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                    • Does the US ban anyone who criticizes the US government policies and calls for boycotts of American companies? Seems very undemocratic.

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                      • Originally posted by giblets View Post
                        Does the US ban anyone who criticizes the US government policies and calls for boycotts of American companies? Seems very undemocratic.
                        The President can ban anyone for national interest. Non-citizens do not have the same rights.
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                        • Tlaib: “Absolutely, and let me tell you — I mean for me, I think two weeks ago or so, we celebrated, or took a moment or so, I think, in our country, to remember the Holocaust. And there’s, you know, there’s a kind of a calming feeling, I always tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust and the tragedy of the Holocaust, in the fact that it was my ancestors, Palestinians, who lost their land and some lost their lives, their livelihood, human dignity, their existence in many ways has been wiped out … was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post [sic] the Holocaust, post [the] tragedy and horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time.
                          Right-leaning websites grossly distorted the nuanced reflections of the Michigan Congresswoman on what happened in Palestine after World War II.


                          **** the right wing media trying to smear her and call her an anti-semite. Enemies of the people.

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                          • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

                            The President can ban anyone for national interest. Non-citizens do not have the same rights.
                            Seems like it's pretty rare for the US president to ban a specific person because of something they said.

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                            • Originally posted by giblets View Post
                              Right-leaning websites grossly distorted the nuanced reflections of the Michigan Congresswoman on what happened in Palestine after World War II.


                              **** the right wing media trying to smear her and call her an anti-semite. Enemies of the people.
                              Her ancestors didn't help the Jewish immigrants. They were, OMG, anti-immigrant. They didn't really lose their land anymore than white people are losing their land in America. Her ancestors were friends with the Nazis. They colluded with them to set up death camps in the ME if the Nazis if they won the war.

                              Your knowledge of history is horrible.
                              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                              • Originally posted by giblets View Post

                                Seems like it's pretty rare for the US president to ban a specific person because of something they said.
                                Doesn't mean that he shouldn't. And Israel isn't America. It's a small country.
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