Police officers now considered offensive

[giblets]

But the SC has supported them, which can seen to be more national.

They ruled that it's unconstitutional to ban gay marriage, but it's still legal to fire people for being gay in most states, deny services to someone because they're gay, etc.

[Jon Miller]

On the other hand, it hasn't been legal to send someone to jail because they were gay, or kill them because they were gay or take away their property (by the government) because they were gay for a long time.

And there doesn't appear to be noticeable implicit bias, probably because gay people look exactly like the privileged white population, unlike for racial minorities.

JM

[Jon Miller]

Liberty is not a boolean.

I didn't state that it was.

JM

[Ben Kenobi]

My main point was that I don't take candidates from on-line universities seriously for employment purposes. If it was an on-line course from a brick and mortar college, yes, that would be different.

Absolutely. Accreditation is crucial. That is why I clarified that I meant the courses, not the schools themselves. There are lots of students who due to distance might not be able to attend college at all without the provision for online courses. It really opens up doors.

[Kidlicious]

People voted on culture more than anything else in this election. Culture is more important to most Americans than liberty and jobs. We have had a POTUS for the last 8 years that has been extremely hostile to American culture, and Americans reacted appropriately.

[Kidlicious]

People pay too much attention to what people say, and not what they mean. It's a very common mistake.

[Kidlicious]

I put up a possible analysis of the Trump victory a week ago that racial minorities and the working class were not enthused by the democrats (and their leaders) because the vocal base had been focusing on LBGTQ? rights and not on the needs of the racial minorities and working class. Imran responded that the movement for LBGTQ? rights had developed organically and that the democrat leadership had embraced it a little late, which is true. But doesn't mean that the party movement hadn't been for LBGTQ? and not for racial minorities and the working class. He also responded that they (racial minorities) should have put more effort into pushing the democratic party to address their needs, which maybe be true but should it be?

He reacted strongly against my suggestion that working class issues and racial minorities issues should be focused on instead of bathrooms and T issues.

In any case, I have also observed that it is the LBGTQ? and allies who are the most upset by Trump's victory and not racial minorities who would seem to be the most in danger. The latter seem to view this election as a normal sort of situation (1 step forward 2 steps back). Trump seems more supportive of LBGTQ? rights than traditional republicans after all. This suggests that democrats have been captured to some degree by the LBGTQ? and allies and also that there is a certain narcissism involved (which was also obvious if you heard all the comparisons of the movement for LBGTQ? rights to fighting the Nazis and fighting against Jim Crow).

Impressions and summaries matter. LBGTQ? is mostly an issue for the privilged and has made much more progress in a much shorter amount of time than class issues or racial issues.

JM

IDK how much people reacted to those issues. It seems to me that Muslim immigration and political correctness were reacted to more than men in women's bathrooms. It just seems that people reacted to the latter more because they talk about that more.

[Kidlicious]

It's petty incidents like this blown massively out of proportion that convinced people that political correctness has gone too far and they need to vote for a racist male chauvinist

It isn't petty. It's very hostile behaviour from your side. Reacting to it is appropriate.

[Kidlicious]

So let's continue to promote economic opportunities for white men, while everyone else gets left behind AGAIN?

Let's remember this when white people are the minority and are asking for their rights.

You won't forget to oppress white men because it has always been part of your mindset, and always will be.

[N35t0r]

People voted on culture more than anything else in this election. Culture is more important to most Americans than liberty and jobs. We have had a POTUS for the last 8 years that has been extremely hostile to American culture, and Americans reacted appropriately.

Given voter turnouts, I'd say that people reacted to the sheer unlikability of the candidates by not voting.

[Jon Miller]

IDK how much people reacted to those issues. It seems to me that Muslim immigration and political correctness were reacted to more than men in women's bathrooms. It just seems that people reacted to the latter more because they talk about that more.

What Muslim immigration?

There has been some Indian immigration (some of it Muslim), but most people seem unconcerned about it and are primarily concerned about "Hispanic" immigration.

JM

[Jon Miller]

People voted on culture more than anything else in this election. Culture is more important to most Americans than liberty and jobs. We have had a POTUS for the last 8 years that has been extremely hostile to American culture, and Americans reacted appropriately.

Name one way that Obama has been hostile to American culture.

I know that some on the right think this way, but that is often because they are told lies (Obama is a Muslim, Obama is an Atheist, and so on).

Obama is a liberal (Christian) but such people and their allies make up a majority of Americans.

JM

[Kidlicious]

Name one way that Obama has been hostile to American culture.

I know that some on the right think this way, but that is often because they are told lies (Obama is a Muslim, Obama is an Atheist, and so on).

Obama is a liberal (Christian) but such people and their allies make up a majority of Americans.

JM

I don't believe that he is a Christian because he often speaks with contempt for Christians. I do believe that he believes much the same as Jeremiah Wright though, despite what he says. Praising Castro for example, proves this. Also, blaming terrorism on prejudice against Muslims pretty much proves that he believes Wright's words, "Not God Bless America. God Damn America."Many on the left Don't know that Wright was blaming America for 9-11 in that sermon. So it may be that he is the type of Christian that his old pastor is. But then in that respect I believe that he is also a Muslim.

As far as people being lied to, that he is a Muslim, are you talking about fake news on YouTube or something? The thing is that it isn't so much that they're lied to as much as they don't believe Obama when he says that he's a Christian, and they have good reason not to. The man constantly talks about American values, but he doesn't believe in American values. He is dead set AGAINST American values. He campaigned on unity and he has been the most divisive president in recent history. Just the other day he said that rural America doesn't like him because he is like a foreigner. It would be much better if he got his head out of his ass and actually cared why we don't like him.

[Kidlicious]

What Muslim immigration?

There has been some Indian immigration (some of it Muslim), but most people seem unconcerned about it and are primarily concerned about "Hispanic" immigration.

JM

We don't know who is immigrating right now. All an immigrant has to do is claim asylum and they aren't deported.

[giblets]

The terrorists attacked us because they hate our freedoms, of course.