Pope: Catholics should ask gay people for forgiveness

[Giancarlo]

True, but again, had market principles been allowed to work, I would argue that the change would have happened anyways. If some businesses remained open, that's an argument that they were actually meeting a market demand. Futhermore, that demand would remain even after the law was changed, they would have just changed their business model to be a private club - which is in fact what we did see.



Laws contrary to market principles can only be sustained by those same market principles. If you don't have police in the hood, you're not going to have discrimination complaints.



True. I don't see how it changes my point that the bus boycott was successful.



I think that victims are affected by their experiences. Someone who has been raped will be affected in their future relationships with men.

Market principles don't change the law and don't bring about change legally. The market shouldn't dictate the law or else the consequences could be serious. Learn the reality.

Your last paragraph shows you are nothing more than a racist.

[Ben Kenobi]

You don't give two ****s about qualifications. You just said people should get preference for religious beliefs (like Christian businesses only hiring Christians).

It should be up to the business what they believe makes an employee qualified. I have no issues with homosexual people owning a business and hiring other people who are homosexual. That is their decision. Same applies to Christians.

Market principles don't change the law and don't bring about change legally.

Which is why you support divestiture of Israel?

[Ben Kenobi]

What's up with this swastika at a Jewish bakery nonsense. Last I checked Swastikas were not a religion, race or sexual preference or other specifically legislated protected status. So you could reject a request for a swasitka cake with no fear of breaking the law.

That actually, wasn't my question. Would going to a Jewish baker and demanding a cake with a swatstika constitute loving behavior?

Arguing that some forms of expression are protected, while others are not, is contrary to the First Amendment - which you folks in England have never had.

Again, rebutted in the order. Please learn to read before you spout drivel.

If Melissa were discriminating against homosexual customers, why were they able to successfully place an order? Clearly she wasn't actually discriminating against homosexual customers.

[Giancarlo]

It should be up to the business what they believe makes an employee qualified. I have no issues with homosexual people owning a business and hiring other people who are homosexual. That is their decision. Same applies to Christians.

It isn't up to the business though to discriminate. You don't give a sh*t about the law. The law says otherwise. I have a big ****ing issue with people violating employment laws, and I don't care what you have an issue with or not. This isn't about you or what your little mind thinks.

Full of bull**** as usual, Ben.

[Ben Kenobi]

It isn't up to the business though to discriminate.

Hiring decisions should be about what is best for the business and their bottom line.

You don't give a sh*t about the law. The law says otherwise. I have a big ****ing issue with people violating employment laws, and I don't care what you have an issue with or not. This isn't about you or what your little mind thinks.

You also have a big issue with the market, which is the core issue here. If you don't support a business earning profit, then employment laws are just a
sideshow.

Full of bull**** as usual, Ben.

I, at least know which side my bread is buttered on.

[Giancarlo]

Hiring decisions should be about what is best for the business and their bottom line.



You also have a big issue with the market, which is the core issue here. If you don't support a business earning profit, then employment laws are just a
sideshow.



I, at least know which side my bread is buttered on.

Again I don't care what you think hiring decisions should be based on. In this country, we have employment laws, idiot. I am pretty sure you would fire LGBT workers simply because of who they are.

I support strong regulations. I am not a conservative free market piss down economics believer like you. Keep peddling your bull****.

You don't know anything, bigoted dip****.

[Giancarlo]

Earning a profit huh? Pretty sure slavery did too. You moron. If you place profits above everything, you are even worse of a person than I thought. Scumbag.

[Ben Kenobi]

Again I don't care what you think hiring decisions should be based on. In this country, we have employment laws, idiot. I am pretty sure you would fire LGBT workers simply because of who they are.

If I'm running a Catholic school, yes I would because we all sign contracts saying that we will publicly obey the teachings of the Church. We would go out of business pretty fast if the parents did not feel we were providing a Catholic education.

I support strong regulations. I am not a conservative free market piss down economics believer like you. Keep peddling your bull****.

I get that. Still doesn't change that you live in America. My ears will perk up if folks like you go to Venezuela.

You don't know anything, bigoted dip****.

Look at what a person does, not what they say.

If you place profits above everything, you are even worse of a person than I thought

In a business? You have to be making a profit.

[Giancarlo]

If I'm running a Catholic school, yes I would because we all sign contracts saying that we will publicly obey the teachings of the Church. We would go out of business pretty fast if the parents did not feel we were providing a Catholic education.



I get that. Still doesn't change that you live in America. My ears will perk up if folks like you go to Venezuela.



Look at what a person does, not what they say.



In a business? You have to be making a profit.

A Catholic school is basically under the church. But they should be subjected to the same laws.

If I go to Venezuela? You are a ****ing delusional moron. Maybe you should go in a time machine back to the south and support slavery.

Idiot!

Businesses have to follow the ****ing law or close down!

[Ben Kenobi]

A Catholic school is basically under the church. But they should be subjected to the same laws.

Thanks to Hosanna Tabor, the law confirmed that we are protected!

If I go to Venezuela?

It's a commie paradise. Why don't you go live there if communism is so awesome?

[Giancarlo]

Piss down economics gets you depressions like 1929. Want another depression? Advocate the stupid deregulation you do.

And citing Venezuela is just another example of your stupidity and inability to stay on subject.

[Giancarlo]

Thanks to Hosanna Tabor, the law confirmed that we are protected!



It's a commie paradise. Why don't you go live there if communism is so awesome?

I never said communism is awesome, you stupid idiot. You need to get a ****ing lobotomy.

Just because I favor environmental and employment laws means I care for the people. You care for money only and you don't give a **** about people.

[Ben Kenobi]

And citing Venezuela is just another example of your stupidity and inability to stay on subject.

Well, Venezuela has been commie since Chavez came in, and their economy totally collapsed. Clearly communism doesn't work. Otherwise you'd be living there.

As for the depression - why did it happen in 1929 and not, say in the 19th century? Since capitalism is obviously a failure.

[Ben Kenobi]

Just because I favor environmental and employment laws means I care for the people.

Then why do you have an issue with profit? You can't fund those without enterprises that are making money. There's a reason they scrape barnacles off a ship's hull, Gian. Because they slow the ship down.

[Giancarlo]

Well, Venezuela has been commie since Chavez came in, and their economy totally collapsed. Clearly communism doesn't work. Otherwise you'd be living there.

As for the depression - why did it happen in 1929 and not, say in the 19th century? Since capitalism is obviously a failure.

Nobody is talking about Venezuela or communism.

You are ****ing stupid! I don't advocate communism. You are so stupid you can't even stay on subject. I never expected any better than an idiot like you.

Regulations doesn't mean communism, you racist homophobic fool.