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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostHis survey confirmed that a black man and a white man with the same name are hired at the same rate. That to me would suggest that there's no discrimination whatsoever.
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The invitation to a job interview doesn't equate getting the job.
When the interviewer (in the job interview) finds out that,. despite the european sounding name, it is a black person,
he can still give the job to another (whitze one) personTamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"
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Far be it from me to defend a Tweedle, MST, but if blacks and whites with the same names get hired at similar rates, wouldn't that have the opposite implication, i.e. a black man mistakenly interviewed because his name is "Brad" can overcome the prejudice? Or am I misreading this whole argument?
EDIT: Oh, I get it, BK simply made up that "fact" on the grounds that the study cited did not explicitly say otherwise. Gotcha.
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Or are you saying the US would have turned fascist in the 1930/40ies without a high number of guns in private hands?
That makes as little sense as the claim I recall from an older poly thread (forgot who made it tho) that Switzerland was not attacked by Germany because "ppl had guns at home". Or that Hitler came to power mostly because there was a lack of guns in private hands.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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To explain to you the error in your thinking:
The invitation to a job interview doesn't equate getting the job.
When the interviewer (in the job interview) finds out that,. despite the european sounding name, it is a black person,
he can still give the job to another (whitze one) person
A better experiment would be to repeat the same experiments, except you control both sides with the number of applicants of each name. If the white people with specific names are rejected just as often as black people with the same name, it's clearly the problem is one of culture not of race.
That's at least how a proper experiment would have been set up.
say you have 24 applicants. 12 are white, 12 are black.
3 of the white applicants are male, Dick, Harry, etc.
3 of the white applicants are male: D'quan,
3 of the white applicants are female, Anna, etc
3 of the white applicants are female: Shaqueesha or whatever
3 of the black applicants are male: Jim Brown, etc
3 of the black applicants are male: D'quan
3 of the black applicants are female: Mary, Anna, etc
3 of the black applicants are female: Shaqueesha, or etc.
You control both lists of names so that the names are identical. Each pair of names has an identical resume, but you'd do variations among the resumes between the name pairs, so you could track what happens with different resumes too.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
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if blacks and whites with the same names get hired at similar rates, wouldn't that have the opposite implication, i.e. a black man mistakenly interviewed because his name is "Brad" can overcome the prejudice? Or am I misreading this whole argument?
EDIT: Oh, I get it, BK simply made up that "fact" on the grounds that the study cited did not explicitly say otherwise. Gotcha.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
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and totally not racist to throw resumes with names like "Kanye" in the trash.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostOne of the signature achievements of Hitler in the 30s was gun control in Nazi Germany. So yes, I am making this claim.
And Switzerland indeed neither fell to Nazi Germany nor did they spawn a similar Nazi government.
"Switzerland was not invaded because Hitler liked cheese/disliked tunnels/had no strategic or ideologic interest in invading Switzerland"
"The UK home isles neither fell to Nazi Germany nor did they spawn a similar Nazi government. Sure they had Spitfires and battleships and whatnot, but they would have done equally well just by deploying guys having shotguns at home".Blah
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Originally posted by giblets View PostWho doesn't like cheese?With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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It's quite funny that some people refers to Switzerland as a country with many weapons - if the Swiss regulations of weapons was implemented in the US it would be a vast improvement from current third world conditions.
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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