Is the Establishment and Media's reaction to Trump causing his popularity?

[Egbert]

That opens up some potentially nasty cans of worms. Ok, someone posting that they hate America is probably not a great idea, but what about people who might have criticized a previous administration? Posted something about Bush being a warmonger? Posted something about Clinton ruining America? Where exactly does the line between threat and freedom of speech lie there exactly?

Criticisms of either Bush or Clinton are made by, probably, most Americans at some time. Hating on Bush or Clinton thus seems a normal part of politics. Does that mean most Americans should be banned from America?

[kentonio]

Criticisms of either Bush or Clinton are made by, probably, most Americans at some time. Hating on Bush or Clinton thus seems a normal part of politics. Does that mean most Americans should be banned from America?

Exactly my point. If you're going to allow social media posting to be considered when immigration are deciding who is allowed in though, you'd have to be incredibly careful to ensure it's not being misused and I'm not sure that's really possible.

[giblets]

Not letting Republican supporters immigrate sounds like a great idea

[Kidlicious]

That opens up some potentially nasty cans of worms. Ok, someone posting that they hate America is probably not a great idea, but what about people who might have criticized a previous administration? Posted something about Bush being a warmonger? Posted something about Clinton ruining America? Where exactly does the line between threat and freedom of speech lie there exactly?

Non-citizens do not have a right to come to this country, period. You're narrative is pig-headed.

[kentonio]

Non-citizens do not have a right to come to this country, period. You're narrative is pig-headed.

Except that allowing this could very easily lead to a situation where PC immigration officials were determining who could enter based on their own liberal beliefs. And you're in favour of that.

[Kidlicious]

They've already done that.

[Dinner]

I love how Kid just threadjacks his own threads when they are not going his way. But this sudden swerve is actually interesting - as long as one ignores the idiotic logic of "Obama trying to raise his popularity by pissing people off."

Regarding immigration/visa vetting: This is disturbing. It would seem obvious that publicly posted social media should be a bedrock of the modern vetting process, along with more traditional background checks.

I look forward to learning more.

I agree with you there. Kid does say some dumb stuff. That said, even a broken clock can be right once in a while and Kid might have a point about the vetting process. It has been claimed, though not proven imho, that the state department and homeland security does not allow any questions about religious beliefs during the vetting process. It seems to me if we are trying to weed out jihadists then asking people how they feel about jihad and terrorism might be a good place to start.

That doesn't change the fact that Kid is loony as all get go.

[Kidlicious]

The loons are those who let this happen. What would Hillary do about this? Have you even asked yourself that?

[kentonio]

It seems to me if we are trying to weed out jihadists then asking people how they feel about jihad and terrorism might be a good place to start.

How many potential terrorists do you imagine are going to tell you at immigration that they absolutely love violent jihad and terrorism?

[-Jrabbit]

I just think that if a potential employer can investigate my public online presence as part of due diligence, it's certainly within the purview of the federal government.

Makes me wonder what the vetting process is like for government jobs.

[DinoDoc]

How many potential terrorists do you imagine are going to tell you at immigration that they absolutely love violent jihad and terrorism?

I dunno. The wife was blabbing about her love for terrorism and jihad all over social media. Did anyone in the process of granting her a Visa ask her?

[DinoDoc]

Makes me wonder what the vetting process is like for government jobs.

Your tax dollars at work.

[rah]

Two totally different things.

My great grandfather immigrated from Germany and when they asked his last name they spelled it wrong. He was too afraid to correct them, so our family name has been misspelled since.

[Kidlicious]

Probably a Nazi.

[rah]

Hint, the Germans that were fleeing the country were not the NAZIs

But why should that fact ruin another Kid Lie.