Is the Establishment and Media's reaction to Trump causing his popularity?

[Kidlicious]

If one of the contractors I hire for one of my projects shows up late you had better believe I notice. If the deadline is tight I won't fire him on the spot but I will let him know I am paying good money and timeliness is part of it. I might have a team of three or four different contractors plus a county inspector out at a job site and they all still get paid even if they are standing around waiting for your lazy unpunctual butt. Show up on time and ready to work or you don't get any more contracts from me. What is more is my company does a lot of work and awards a lot of projects and I will let all the other Project Managers know you are unreliable and cause cost over runs.

It is called being a professional at your chosen career; something you obviously aren't.

15 minutes. 15 MINUTES!!!! Wtf is wrong with you????!!!

[kentonio]

I quoted David Prior. Do you know who that is?

You mean David Gifford Leathes Prior, also more properly known as Baron Prior of Brampton? The guy I already told you is a conservative MP (at one stage chairman of the party)? The same guy who went from Cambridge to work at Lehman Brothers and Lazard Freres before following his conservative minister father into politics after stints in various managing director roles?

In case you're not following this incidentally, he's an extremely rich ****er whose life has never exactly opened his eyes to how the common folk live. Which is probably why he's one of the wankers who keep talking about 'choice' for patients, which actually means them having to pay money to private companies like you poor saps do.

[Kidlicious]

You mean David Gifford Leathes Prior, also more properly known as Baron Prior of Brampton? The guy I already told you is a conservative MP (at one stage chairman of the party)? The same guy who went from Cambridge to work at Lehman Brothers and Lazard Freres before following his conservative minister father into politics after stints in various managing director roles?

In case you're not following this incidentally, he's an extremely rich ****er whose life has never exactly opened his eyes to how the common folk live. Which is probably why he's one of the wankers who keep talking about 'choice' for patients, which actually means them having to pay money to private companies like you poor saps do.

David Prior, head of the Care and Quality Commission (CQC) non-departmental public body,

[Kidlicious]

Sorry but any system where patients can't be forgiven for being 15 minutes late is obviously ****ed. There's no excuse for that. You guys are screwed up in the head.

As I understand it, in the UK, when you call for an appointment, they tell you when your appointment is. You can't ask for a certain time and day. Is that correct?

[Kidlicious]

You have to pay your doctor to write a letter for you in the UK (because the NHS doesn't pay for it). Wtf? It's just a letter.

Where you got if ****ed up is the system has to be judged on how it benefits the patients. I don't even know how you people are judging the system, except that it's socialism so it must be good, because mommy said so.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-your-money-23693468

[rah]

The worst thing is that it takes longer to see a doctor and if I'm 15 minutes late they threaten to cancel my appointment. But they can cancel my appointment whenever the want and make me reschedule weeks later.

All this because they threatened to cancel your appointment. Oh the HORROR.

I once had an appointment cancelled at the last minute when my doctor had to do an emergency surgery. How inconsiderate of my doctor to save a life instead of sticking a finger up my *ss. It was all Obama's fault.

[kentonio]

As I understand it, in the UK, when you call for an appointment, they tell you when your appointment is. You can't ask for a certain time and day. Is that correct?

No it is not correct. You ring up your doctors, the receptionist will tell you when they have available slots in their appointment book and you decide when you want one. If you're getting an appointment for that day or the next couple of days there might be quite limited appointments left available (you can always ring a different doctor if that's a problem) otherwise you just book a few days ahead and get whenever you like.

You have to pay your doctor to write a letter for you in the UK (because the NHS doesn't pay for it). Wtf? It's just a letter.

Your own link answered the question for you..

"The NHS provides general medical services. Letters for patients for third parties are not a health service,"

"This is not money into the doctor's pocket. This is the gross turnover of the practice. Who's going to pay the secretary to type the letter? Who's going to pay the receptionist to sort it out?"

The GP is the only member of staff in the practice who generates external income, whether from the NHS or private sources, he added.

"Anything you do that is not part of the NHS, you have to recuperate your time and your overheads from somewhere - there is only one place and that is from the patient."

This seems like a strange thing for you to raise by the way considering you live in a country where every aspect of healthcare is charged on an item by item basis.

Where you got if ****ed up is the system has to be judged on how it benefits the patients. I don't even know how you people are judging the system, except that it's socialism so it must be good, because mommy said so.

Right, I'm going to be patient (chuckle) and try and lay this out for you as easily as possible..

In the UK we pay considerably less for our healthcare than you do in the US. If I need to see a doctor I can ring up and get an appointment usually the same day or the next day, there are extremely short waiting times, I see an extremely qualified medical professional who can prescribe any effective medication or send me to any other medical consultant for further diagnosis. After filling in a brief form when I first register to join a doctors surgery, I will never then have to fill out any forms just for visiting a doctor. The only time I have any further money to pay is if I am prescribed medicine, which is then charged at a rate of £8.20 per item no matter what that medication is. If I need regular medicine I can pay just £29.10 for as many items as I need per 3 months. If I am old, poor, unemployed or a child or student I will not have to pay at all for the medication.

No forms, no worry about payment, you just ring the doctors, go to the doctors and then concentrate on recovery. I can't stress enough to you just how huge a thing that really is.

Same with a hospital visit. If I have a bad illness or accident and need to have surgery or be admitted for long term care, I go to the hospital (or just ring for an ambulance) and they take care of me. No payments, no forms, no insurance people bothering me night and day, just good quality care for whatever is ailing me.

Now I know in the US you hear a lot of horror stories from right wing sources about how the NHS is a creaking horror show of horrific outcomes and terrible waiting lists and blah blah blah. Over here we find those very funny. What they usually do is pick out old news stories about individual cases of instances where a small part of a huge system had a temporary problem. What they don't bother mentioning is that when a bad problem arises in the system here, it becomes front page news and the problem is then fixed. They also love to cherry pick quotes from hard right UK politicians who love to complain about a system they are far too rich to ever need to actually use. Normal Americans who have actually used our system however tell very different stories.

Here's a few for you..

http://uk.businessinsider.com/an-ame...15-1?r=US&IR=T
https://potentialandexpectations.wor...thcare-system/

Here's a few quotes from your fellow Americans in case you don't fancy opening those links..

"Brits believe that healthcare is a human right and are happy to have a system that covers everyone, all the time. They are HORRIFIED when they hear stories of Americans who have to hold fundraisers to pay for desperately-needed operations. It blows their minds that anyone goes bankrupt or loses their home because of medical bills. The idea that someone would lose their coverage because of a pre-existing condition or because they are so sick they can’t work is totally alien to them. These things simply do not happen in Britain."

"There are delays — there are delays — but to be honest I have experienced delays just as bad here in the US."

"I had my choice of doctors. My small rural town had two GP offices (a GP is a General Practitioner, a family doctor) with about 5 GPs in each office — I could choose either office and any GP in that office I chose."

"I never once received a bill in the UK. There are no copays, there are no deductibles, there is no such thing as max-out-of-pocket. I have an NHS card which I showed at my GP’s office when I registered, and from that point on, I never had to fill out any forms or show any ID ever again. "

"My healthcare in the UK was never dictated by a bureaucrat. Decisions were made by me and my doctor alone, and whatever we decided was the right course of action was the course that was taken. The scope of care available to me was far, far wider than what is covered even by the ‘very good’ insurance policies I’ve had here in the US. There were no limits on the number of times I could see my doctor, or the number of tests/procedures/consultations/etc that I could have in a year (or month or lifetime…) Whatever was deemed medically necessary by my doctor was covered — period."

"I can sum up my experience of the British and American healthcare systems in one simple sentence: given a choice between the two systems, I’d choose the NHS in a heartbeat. And though this is the experience of only one single person out of millions, unlike so much of the propaganda and hysteria surrounding the current healthcare debate, it is the absolute Gospel truth."

[Sava]

Sigh

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[dannubis]

So, racist, misogyne and egoistic. Who would have guessed.

[Kidlicious]

So, racist, misogyne and egoistic. Who would have guessed.

You forgot unpunctual.

[Uncle Sparky]

I'm amazed that Donald Trump has successfully hid his Kenyan parentage from the media. When true Americans find out they might elect another Kenyan president, they'll be pissed.

[rah]

Well there was that side by side photo comparison with an orangutan. More proof than the truthers ever had.

[Kidlicious]

I just figured that Obama was born in a Muslim community, but I never cared enough to look at the evidence.

[-Jrabbit]

I just figured that Obama was born in a Muslim community, but I never cared enough to look at the evidence.

I call bullsh1t. In fact, I call TOTAL bullsh1t.

Also, are you really claiming that Obamacare requires doctors' offices to institute new tardiness policies?

[Kidlicious]

I still haven't read the law