Is the Establishment and Media's reaction to Trump causing his popularity?

[Kidlicious]

What healthcare is the government stopping you from getting?

Control over your health care means that you have control over what health care you purchase dingbat.

[giblets]

Is there a specific doctor you want to see but can't? A specific procedure you want but can't get...?

[Kidlicious]

Are you really to stupid to keep up?

[Kidlicious]

Yes, people can't just go to whatever doctor they want, and they can't get whatever procedure done etc.. because of their insurance policy and because they aren't rich (I actually don't know if you can if you're rich, but you might be able to if you are super rich.)

[rah]

OK, I'll play, even though I know I'm going to regret it.

So Kid. Assume you're living in a country that provides universal health care paid by general tax revenues.
Do these people have control or no control over their health care?


In Obama care you can select what type of coverage you want. Basic or deluxe.

[giblets]

Yes, people can't just go to whatever doctor they want, and they can't get whatever procedure done etc.. because of their insurance policy and because they aren't rich (I actually don't know if you can if you're rich, but you might be able to if you are super rich.)

So people have a right to see whatever doctor they want and get whatever procedure they want regardless of whether they can afford it... and Republicans are offering that?

[rah]

Yes, people can't just go to whatever doctor they want, and they can't get whatever procedure done etc.. because of their insurance policy and because they aren't rich (I actually don't know if you can if you're rich, but you might be able to if you are super rich.)

And for the record, I can't do that with my work provided health plan, and it was the same even before Obama Care.

[Kidlicious]

OK, I'll play, even though I know I'm going to regret it.

So Kid. Assume you're living in a country that provides universal health care paid by general tax revenues.
Do these people have control or no control over their health care?

Probably not. The government has control over it. What is difficult about that?

In Obama care you can select what type of coverage you want. Basic or deluxe.

So you can get a GMC Pacer or a Chevy Chevette?

[Kidlicious]

The French have a lot of choice, right now, but their system is likely to go bankrupt without major cost cutting.

[giblets]

Obamacare won't let you buy a plan that doesn't cover pre-existing conditions... that's the main difference I can think of. I guess Kidicious thinks people with pre-existing conditions should be left to fend for themselves.

[rah]

Probably not. The government has control over it. What is difficult about that?

Just trying to get a feel about how you felt about government provided universal health care.

So you can get a GMC Pacer or a Chevy Chevette?

In most places you can get a Cadillac if you're willing to pay. One that does cover even more than what my work provided plan does. And my work plan is pretty damn good.

[Kidlicious]

So people have a right to see whatever doctor they want and get whatever procedure they want regardless of whether they can afford it... and Republicans are offering that?

Of course not. That's not affordable.

[Kidlicious]

And for the record, I can't do that with my work provided health plan, and it was the same even before Obama Care.

My plan went up when Obamacare started, quite a bit. Right now, I'm paying a lot for deductibles. The worst thing is that it takes longer to see a doctor and if I'm 15 minutes late they threaten to cancel my appointment. But they can cancel my appointment whenever the want and make me reschedule weeks later.

[Kidlicious]

Just trying to get a feel about how you felt about government provided universal health care.



In most places you can get a Cadillac if you're willing to pay. One that does cover even more than what my work provided plan does. And my work plan is pretty damn good.

You have to qualify for a Cadillac where I work, and I don't know how much of a Cadillac it is.

[Kidlicious]

Obamacare won't let you buy a plan that doesn't cover pre-existing conditions... that's the main difference I can think of. I guess Kidicious thinks people with pre-existing conditions should be left to fend for themselves.

That's the one good thing about Obamacare. That doesn't mean there isn't a lot of bad to it. There's a lot of stuff we can't see yet, like how long people are going to have to wait for doctors and hospital beds.