The Slava class cruiser is a design from the late 1960s.  If they fire on any NATO aircraft it would be sunk virtually immediately.   The Turks could do this by themselves without the help of any other NATO powers.
							
						
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 It really does bring out the worst jingoistic dick-waving from otherwise reasonably sane people! Stop embarrassing yourselves like children getting hard-ons over the prospect of an escalation! 
 
 overly warhawk people from both sides have been posturing with their tiny penises. Now some of their pawns have got broken and killed and WWIII is touted like everyone wants it to go down in the playground. 
 
 No wonder Syria is ****ed up and will be for the foreseeable future.
 
 Nothing will come of this as everyone is ultimately too chicken**** to do anything about it.
 
 Nothing to see here, especially not paiktis, PLATO and oerdin's little nationalist penises!  
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 Happy Thanksgiving NICE MOBIUS. Please don't confuse facts with nationalism. Have a wonderful day.Originally posted by NICE MOBIUS View Post 
 
 It really does bring out the worst jingoistic dick-waving from otherwise reasonably sane people! Stop embarrassing yourselves like children getting hard-ons over the prospect of an escalation! 
 
 overly warhawk people from both sides have been posturing with their tiny penises. Now some of their pawns have got broken and killed and WWIII is touted like everyone wants it to go down in the playground. 
 
 No wonder Syria is ****ed up and will be for the foreseeable future.
 
 Nothing will come of this as everyone is ultimately too chicken**** to do anything about it.
 
 Nothing to see here, especially not paiktis, PLATO and oerdin's little nationalist penises! [emoji14]"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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 The common sense doesn't exist for you any longer, you have a collective ministry of truth to tell what is right and what is wrong. And you are happy to eat this sh!t.
 So, let's finish it. Really. Humans have become idiots and need a self-destruct. Bring it on, motherf*ckers.
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 Turkey have violated Greek airspace about 50 times in this November only. Still, no Turkish planes were shot-down. No one in his straight mind shot down planes for a seconds-long violation of airspace. The f*cker is an idiot, and he will pay for that.Originally posted by Apocalypse View PostTurkey has no problem repeatedly violating Greek airspace.
 
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 Oh, boy!Originally posted by PLATO View Post Of course it had nothing to do with Turkey repeatedly warning Russia about violating its airspace and Russia ignoring them.  It was all about ISIS giving Turkey Oil. Of course it had nothing to do with Turkey repeatedly warning Russia about violating its airspace and Russia ignoring them.  It was all about ISIS giving Turkey Oil. 
 That was a well prepared trap. Everything Turkey is saying is nothing, but a bullsh!t. We have radar data which shows Russian plane was in Syrian air space and that was Turkish plane, which entered Syrian air space to shot it down. Even, if we assume, every BS Turks are saying is true, then according to THEIR OWN DATA, their, Turkish, the Russian plane was in Turkish air space for just a FEW seconds.
 
 
 FOR SIXTY YEARS NATO-Russia relationships in the air have never seen something like this. We had hundreds, if not thousands of violations of airspace of each other, but nobody have pulled a trigger. Especially for a supposed violation, which lasted for seconds and possessed no OBVIOUS threat for the owner of the air space ('cause Turkey KNEW exactly what Russian plane was doing in Syria and that its targets are in Syrian soil, not in Turkey).
 
 It's a f*cking act of war.
 
 You want it, you'll get it.
 Seriously.
 Dig your f*cking bomb shelter, idiots.
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 There is huge naval base there.Originally posted by giblets View PostOh no, what if they took a picture of the Kamchatka peninsula? I'm sure there's so much going on there 
 But, you still don't get it. The Korean plane didn't response no matter what. No radio contact. No reply to visual warnings. They have ignored warning shots as well. It just kept flying. And it doesn't took few seconds, that continued for about an hour or more - DEEP INSIDE the Soviet air space. The plane did not react to any kinds of warnings, not for a few seconds, but while it crossed the distance about the half size of Europe.
 
 Keep laughing about Soviets were serious about a kind of threat a civilian plane could posses.
 Then remember 911 and keep laughing louder.
 Idiot.Last edited by Serb; November 27, 2015, 18:41.
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 You really are a moron, you know that. The SU-24 carries R-73 air to air missiles, That was the latest upgrade.Originally posted by Serb View PostWhat, shot, you , idiot? Su-24 doesn't have any air-to-air missiles by definition. It's a bomber.
 
 I guess it just didn't make it (like so many other things didn't) on to the troll fact sheet of the day you get from your troll factory masters."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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 Russian radar?Originally posted by Serb View PostWe have radar data which shows Russian plane was in Syrian air space and that was Turkish plane, which entered Syrian air space to shot it down. That explains at least one of your country's fu*kups. That explains at least one of your country's fu*kups. 
 
 Even, if we assume, every BS Turks are saying is true, then according to THEIR OWN DATA, their, Turkish, the Russian plane was in Turkish air space for just a FEW seconds.
 
 Which after being warned time and again, why Turkey shot down your plane, stupid.
 
 
 So you guys ready to quit be asshats and go back to the old rules, or will you require more lessons?FOR SIXTY YEARS NATO-Russia relationships in the air have never seen something like this. We had hundreds, if not thousands of violations of airspace of each other, but nobody have pulled a trigger. Especially for a supposed violation, which lasted for seconds and possessed no OBVIOUS threat for the owner of the air space ('cause Turkey KNEW exactly what Russian plane was doing in Syria and that its targets are in Syrian soil, not in Turkey).
 
 
 Isn't this what you have been waiting for? Where are the nukes? Are they on the way yet? Russia is a pu$$y if she believes it is an act of war and does nothing.It's a f*cking act of war.  
 
 Ready. Much more than your propaganda machine is telling you.You want it, you'll get it.
 Seriously.
 
 Why? Assuming you can even get half your missiles to fire (The half that have supposedly been recently upgraded and aren't rusting and leaking all over the place). Not a whole lot of those will make here. Chances are, where I live isn't even targeted. What percentage of your population lives in Moscow, asshat? What do you think the chances of us missing really are?Dig your f*cking bomb shelter, idiots. 
 
 Go troll people who do not know you are an idiot."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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