The tyranny of religion

[Berzerker]

Yes? And? He made the decision to eat of the apple.

He just finished blaming Eve for giving it to him! That's not leadership.

In the face of people telling him to disobey an order? That takes leadership.

He's a leader if he follows orders and he's a follower if he disobeys orders? Yes, he chose to eat and he chose to disobey. He was not ordered to eat, he was ordered not to eat. As for blaming Eve, God asked him to identify the source of his enlightenment and Adam admits he did partake.

[Ben Kenobi]

He's a leader if he follows orders and he's a follower if he disobeys orders? Yes, he chose to eat and he chose to disobey. He was not ordered to eat, he was ordered not to eat. As for blaming Eve, God asked him to identify the source of his enlightenment and Adam admits he did partake.

You're assuming that leaders don't follow God. Don't understand the reasons behind that. Is it better to follow God or other men? If other men, aren't you then following them?

[Kidlicious]

You said it, not me.

I am a firm believer that you can learn things from women.

This conversation is over.

[Berzerker]

You're assuming that leaders don't follow God. Don't understand the reasons behind that. Is it better to follow God or other men? If other men, aren't you then following them?

Thats right, if you're following you aint leading, god (or other men) is leading.

Did Jesus lead or did he follow? He followed... Render unto Caesar and render unto God, that is not the ideology of a leader.

Adam chose for himself and Eve chose for herself, both found the tree appealing.

[Ben Kenobi]

Uh, Kid, you're talking to a DL.

[Ben Kenobi]

Thats right, if you're following you aint leading, god (or other men) is leading.

How are you leading if you're following another man?

Did Jesus lead or did he follow? He followed... Render unto Caesar and render unto God, that is not the ideology of a leader.

He lead and followed. Lead men and followed God.

[Kidlicious]

Uh, Kid, you're talking to a DL.

Damn it. Sorry. I'm going to have to put all these DLs on my ignore list.

[Ben Kenobi]

Damn it. Sorry. I'm going to have to put all these DLs on my ignore list.

No worries. I did the same.

[Berzerker]

Uh, Kid, you're talking to a DL.

How are you leading if you're following another man?

You aren't leading, dont matter if you're following man or god

He lead and followed. Lead men and followed God.

The follower is the leader? And since Adam didn't follow, he was not a leader. Render unto Caesar is following Caesar, not leading him.

[Ben Kenobi]

You aren't leading, dont matter if you're following man or god

Sure it does. You can lead men and follow God, but you can't follow men and lead God.

[Berzerker]

you're not leading if you're following, God is leading

God tried leading Adam, didn't work, Adam didn't follow. And we're here because of it...

[Kidlicious]

you're not leading if you're following, God is leading

God tried leading Adam, didn't work, Adam didn't follow. And we're here because of it...

I don't agree with everything you're saying, but you're making a good point. You're more like a middle manager who takes the blame and gets fired.

[Ben Kenobl]

Getting fired and going straight to Hell.

[Kidlicious]

Settler



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[Ben Kenobi]

God tried leading Adam, didn't work, Adam didn't follow. And we're here because of it...

He should have followed God, not Eve.