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  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    Non-Christians, at least in the US are the firmest supporters of gay marriage in the US. One would expect in a more secular culture this would become even more true, not less.
    again, there's absolutely no reason to believe that 100% of muslims, orthodox christians or protestants would vote in favour of gay marriage.

    Yes, last time this happened you took our land, you took our churches. Now they are empty and dying and you're coming for our churches, again. Some things never do change, do they? You'll fall behind again and the process will repeat itself.

    It doesn't matter what you do, Cockney. Haven't you figured that out yet? Long after you're dead and gone we'll still be rolling on.
    i don't really see what this blather has to do with catholics in ireland voting in favour of gay marriage.
    "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

    "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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    • i don't really see what this blather has to do with catholics in ireland voting in favour of gay marriage.
      Where do you think the whole Church of England came from? Those were all the folks who believed that divorce was the way of the future. How did that work out for you?
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      • very well.
        "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

        "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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        • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
          Where do you think the whole Church of England came from? Those were all the folks who believed that divorce was the way of the future. How did that work out for you?
          Pretty good. Thanks.
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          • Gerald Fitzwilliam and Willie FitzGerald can now marry!!!
            There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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            • Take note-

              One of Ireland's most senior Catholic clerics has called for the Church to take a "reality check" following the country's overwhelming vote in favour of same-sex marriage.
              The first gay marriages are now likely to take place in the early autumn.
              Diarmuid Martin, the archbishop of Dublin, said the Church in Ireland needed to reconnect with young people.
              The referendum found 62% were in favour of changing the constitution to allow gay and lesbian couples to marry.
              Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin
              The archbishop voted 'No' in the referendum
              The archbishop told the broadcaster RTE: "We [the Church] have to stop and have a reality check, not move into denial of the realities.
              "We won't begin again with a sense of renewal, with a sense of denial.

              "I appreciate how gay and lesbian men and women feel on this day. That they feel this is something that is enriching the way they live. I think it is a social revolution."

              The archbishop personally voted "No" arguing that gay rights should be respected "without changing the definition of marriage".
              "I ask myself, most of these young people who voted yes are products of our Catholic school system for 12 years. I'm saying there's a big challenge there to see how we get across the message of the Church," he added.
              One of Ireland's most senior Catholic clerics calls for the Church to take a "reality check" following the country's overwhelming vote in favour of same-sex marriage.
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              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                Yes, last time this happened you took our land, you took our churches. Now they are empty and dying and you're coming for our churches, again. Some things never do change, do they? You'll fall behind again and the process will repeat itself.

                It doesn't matter what you do, Cockney. Haven't you figured that out yet? Long after you're dead and gone we'll still be rolling on.

                Well your logic is pretty weak there really. The last major anti-catholic stuff was under Henry (not Elizabeth, which just makes it more weird that you keep lying about her role in history). As a long term result Catholics are now in a huge minority in England. In fact its safe to say that confiscation and repression is an excellent way of oppressing a religion and generally leads to adherents of that religion running away or hiding rather than 'rolling on' as you put it.

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                • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                  Well your logic is pretty weak there really. The last major anti-catholic stuff was under Henry (not Elizabeth, which just makes it more weird that you keep lying about her role in history). As a long term result Catholics are now in a huge minority in England. In fact its safe to say that confiscation and repression is an excellent way of oppressing a religion and generally leads to adherents of that religion running away or hiding rather than 'rolling on' as you put it.
                  It can be noted that there are more people going to Catholic mass each week than Anglican, and as such is the largest observant community in the UK.
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                  • Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                    There really isn't a good reason for marriage to be restricted to 2 people.
                    1. Instinct
                    2. Instinct

                    But seriously, of the people involved want to do it, fair enough.

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                    • Originally posted by Dauphin View Post
                      It can be noted that there are more people going to Catholic mass each week than Anglican, and as such is the largest observant community in the UK.
                      I wouldn't be surprised considering how few people bother with churches any more. Where are you getting the figures from though?

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                      • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                        I wouldn't be surprised considering how few people bother with churches any more. Where are you getting the figures from though?
                        General recollection from a few years ago.

                        There was something in my mind that the articles at the time also said Catholic mass attendance was reversing a decline as a by product of Poles migrating to the UK.
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                        • Yes, I read that as well. It also meant that Britain was getting whiter.
                          The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                          • That should make Ben happy

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                            • It can be noted that there are more people going to Catholic mass each week than Anglican, and as such is the largest observant community in the UK.
                              Yep. Hopefully one day we'll get Canterbury back again.
                              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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                              • You're not English. Canterbury is never going to belong to retarded Canadians living in Texas.

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