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Food stamps were introduced in 1933 which meant the poor could get free basic nutrition plus free school lunches. Hell, even the ccc had a mandate to hire every able bodied worker and they served three meals a day all you can eat. Meanwhile in 1933 Social Security was adopted including disability insurance and the us had unemployment insurance as well. Thanks, but I would test my odds in the US, even in 1933, than in any time in Soviet or Russian history.
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nepotism can happen in a "Free economy" as well.
It always depends on the specifics.
Let's take Greece. In one of the darkest times, in the civil war.
As you know, Stalin and Churchill had partitioned Europe in neatly camps. On a handerchief as the rumour goes.
Greece was "90% UK influence - 10% USSR influence".
Things are not that simple.
After the liberation, it became abundandtly clear that one of the most ferocious fighters against the nazis were the Greek communists.
In one time maybe they were even a majority. Also they had arms, pillaged from the running nazis.
Long story short,
UK crapped out completely and left the field. US stepped in.
The civil war in Greece was the first "front" in what became later known as the "cold war".
It was also the reason why the marshal plan was divised. (As the then US diplomat wrote, any delay in immediate assistance will probably result in the loss of Greece as a democracy)
So, brother against brother.
The muricans became frustrated at what they saw as "incompetence" from the part of the fascist state to "crush the communist rebellion" (sic).
"They have the money, they have the equipment, why don't they go ahead and do it".
The reason that escaped their tiny minds was that it was very difficult for ordinary soldiers to go against their countrymen and so they didn't.
One other was that in order to get a position of authority and had a suspicion of being a communist you had to sign a paper that said that you were not. If you didn't sign it you underwent torture and, well, let's say missed the appointment.
That basically left half of the country on the sidelines and the reason for promotion or appointment was only measured by your fascism, sorry I mean anti-communism.
It was to be expected that some of the most incompetent peoples were exactly those.
The divisions were somewhat healed in the '80s with the new socialist gov that legitimized the struggle of communists against nazis and for the Freedom of Greece.
national pensions were given to the patriots and large statues of communist leaders were errected alongside the statues of kings and statesmen. Hence, half the country got "back in" and started contributing, bringing with it of course a very strong left wing traditionComment
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So when you read these quotes
Adolf Hitler:
"For the sake of historical truth I must verify that only the Greeks, of all the adversaries who confronted us, fought with bold courage and highest disregard of death.. " (From speech he delivered to Reichstag on 4 May 1941)
Winston Churchill:
"The word heroism I am afraid does not render the least of those acts of self-sacrifice of the Greeks, which were the defining factor in the victorious outcome of the common struggle of the nations, during WWII, for the human freedom and dignity. If it were not for the bravery of the Greeks and their courage, the outcome of WWII would be undetermined." (Paraphrased from one of his speeches to the British Parliament on 24 April 1941)
"Until now we used to say that the Greeks fight like heroes. Now we shall say: The heroes fight like Greeks." (From a speech he delivered from the BBC in the first days of the Greco-Italian war)
Joseph Vissarionovich Tzougasvili Stalin:
"I am sorry because I am getting old and I shall not live long to thank the Greek People, whose resistance decided WWII." (From a speech of his broadcast by the Moscow radio station on 31 January 1943 after the victory of Stalingrad and the capitulation of marshal Paulus)
Charles de Gaul:
"I am unable to give the proper breadth of gratitude I feel for the heroic resistance of the People and the leaders of Greece." (From a speech of his to the French Parliament after the end of WWII)
Franklin Roosevelt, President of the United States of America:
"On the 28th of October 1940 Greece was given a deadline of three hours to decide on war or peace but even if a three day or three week or three year were given, the response would have been the same. The Greeks taught dignity throughout the centuries. When the entire world had lost all hope, the Greek people dared to question the invincibility of the German monster raising against it the proud spirit of freedom."
(Paraphrased from speech he delivered on 10/6/1943)
it's Greeks but mainly Greek communistsComment
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For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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A good example how so called western "free press" acts http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...intons-health/
Basically, a guy said in an interview, this issue is meh, and this one may be relatively serious, but we don't know for sure. And then his show was cancelled in one week.Knowledge is PowerComment
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Gee... a left leaning Television Network fires a guy for attacking the candidate they prefer. Your point.
Anti Hillary crap runs on the Fox Network, anti Trump crap runs on CNN (and most other networks). At least we get both sides of view... sounds pretty free to me.
Unlike in "some" countries where if you attack the government, you disappear
Keep on Civin'
RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron OComment
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Dr Drew is an unprofessional idiot who was cancelled for a variety of reasons. That was a business decision. The dumb rumors about Hillary's health are perpetuated by falsehoods fueled by Dumpster. Dr Drew clearly isn't professional enough to realize that.Originally posted by Ellestar View Post
Almost as bad as Rudy Giuliani saying "google it!". Maybe Hillary could sue them for slander.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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My point is that your press is not free because it's controlled by capitalists.Originally posted by Ming View Post
And given that west hates Russia, the obvious conclusion from your own words is that western press is not free to tell anything non-anti-russian. I'm sorry, but you can't seriously claim that your press is "free" while ours is "not free" while your press is obviously not free towards us.Knowledge is PowerComment
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Reporter in Russia says something bad or even slightly critical of Putin, that reporter ends up dying in mysterious circumstances.Originally posted by Ellestar View Post
And free lmao. How are gay people treated in Russia? We even get murdered by the authorities. So spare us this talk about freedom.Last edited by Giancarlo; September 9, 2016, 17:53.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Googled it.Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
First search result, header and first line of the article.
Google, first search result: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr1IDQ2V1eMRudy Giuliani Told People To Ignore The Media And Google Conspiracy Theories
“Go online and put down, ‘Hillary Clinton illness,’ and take a look at the videos yourself.”
Videos of Hillary are NOT conspiracy theories. That's not even a logical fallacy, it's an intentional and completely shameless lie. And you call it politics in USA? Usually i just flat out call a person posting something like that a troll (not here, because this forum seems to be for trolling anyway, i mean, in a normal forum discussion).Knowledge is PowerComment
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Total bull****. There are a lot of videos on YouTube that are doctored, exaggerated and misapplied. There are tons of pictures of Hillary walking up stairs, steps and walkways with absolutely no assistance.Originally posted by Ellestar View Post
Giulani is just kissing Trumps ass like a good Trumpeter.
Your post is verified bull****. Videos are not proof of anything and YouTube is NOT A SOURCE. Not under any circumstances. Who is the troll now?
Use your head please.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Actually, i'm using my head. All press is owned by capitalists, so it's not an independent source of information. Many Youtube videos are made by random persons, so they're a more reliable source of information.Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
It's just a matter of trust. You trust capitalists and their press more than anyone else. I definitely don't trust capitalists, so i see anything from that source as suspect by default, unless it can be proven overwise on a case by case basis.Knowledge is PowerComment
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Many YouTube videos are created by random people with extremist agendas and they distort and doctor them. It actually makes it less credible. Talk about destroying all your credibility! Reliable source... Lmao. Not!Originally posted by Ellestar View Post
I don't watch US media or even read their websites. But I also know YouTube is often full of bull****.
You don't have any credibility yourself and you are now lying about what I believe. But good one trying to state YouTube is a source. I'm laughing my ass off right now.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Look, it's a simple logic. Some random person posting youtube video is not necessarily having an agenda and is not necessarily planning to post a video specifically so to cheat you or lie to you. But when you read western press, you know for a fact that the guy writing it is an employer of a certain specific capitalist who uses his asset to promote an agenda that is good for that specific capitalist. So, all western press is suspect while not all youtube videos are suspect.Originally posted by Giancarlo View PostKnowledge is PowerComment
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