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Denial of facts seems to be rampant in Russia. That's why they love Putin so much.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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Reread please. I said that several times in several posts. Come on... this isn't difficult.Originally posted by The Mad Monk View PostYou do, she doesn't. You can say whatever you want about a public figure.
This Russian has used ad hominems towards me multiple times.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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He used several towards me. Reread please.Originally posted by The Mad Monk View PostDo you even know what ad hominem means?
It isn't my problem people refuse to read, then claim that I said something I didn't. I said Hillary is a public figure multiple times.
I also said people releasing defamatory and false statements should feel lucky she is a public figure. If she became a private citizen and they continued, she would be able to take legal action.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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I will not "reread" something that is very clear in the quoted post. Nor will I go back over several pages to dig out whatever it is you think you're getting at, when the context of the post you were responding to at that point makes it very clear that you were not using the term properly.No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.
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Then that isn't my problem. He didn't use any of those terms correctly. Don't claim false things about what I have posted then.Originally posted by The Mad Monk View PostI will not "reread" something that is very clear in the quoted post. Nor will I go back over several pages to dig out whatever it is you think you're getting at, when the context of the post you were responding to at that point makes it very clear that you were not using the term properly.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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You're the one who was denying facts - that is, videos with Hillary acting like a healthy person never would. You said these videos were doctored, however, it appears that both Hillary opponents and Hillary supporters assume that they're genuine videos of her.Originally posted by Giancarlo View PostDenied? Is that your argument now? You just deny reality and facts? He has freedom of speech, but so do I. What open discussion? You are engaging in logical fallacies.
Originally posted by Giancarlo View PostBack at you. denied.And you still didn't make any counter-arguments explaining facts that we see on a videos with Hillary. Naturally, i have no arguments to rebute because you don't have any arguments (other than logical fallacies like "he's not a real doctor" or "you don't know anything about XXX" or "it's nothing" or other things like that).Ad hominem (Latin for "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.
Nope. I claimed he made an argument, and i didn't even repost it because i have no idea if it's true. My claim is that he gave an explanation for observable facts that we know about Clinton, observable facts that are confirmed to be genunie by both sides of the presidential election. And Clinton's side didn't make any arguments that explain observable facts. They only made some statements that we're supposed to believe as is, and they don't explain what we know from the videos.Originally posted by Giancarlo View PostRed herring. Logical fallacy. denied. You cited a YouTube video and claimed the doctor in that video knew more. You can't even prove he is a real doctor. You are appealing to authority yourself (hypocrisy).
Your opinion is very important to us. No, wait, it isn't.Originally posted by Giancarlo View PostShe has disclosed more than enough information.
That may be correct if that was you or me, but she has personal doctor and personal caretakers who's only job is to care about her. Or at least it's absolute majority of their job. If that's not enough so not to be dehydrated during the key moments of her presidential campaign, then she's not fit to be president anyway. After all, they blame other major incidents in previous years for dehydration, so, according to them, it's a very well known recurring problem.Originally posted by Giancarlo View PostShe was outside for extended periods of time. I know what that does to you. When you are so busy, you can forget to drink water. I know that as I worked outside for my prior job. You are making things up.
Originally posted by Giancarlo View PostShe was not totally fine 90 minutes later. She cancelled her events in California to rest and is doing better days later. You didn't follow what happened.
Clinton was thrown in a van ‘like she was a side of beef,’ a law enforcement official said, after her campaign said she ‘felt overheated.’
Well, i don't know, there was a video and there were comments about it. It's not like it's my personal idea....Clinton left Chelsea’s apartment slightly before noon, according to ABC’s Liz Kreutz. She smiled and waved at reporters, and said, "I'm feeling great."
Funny, i thought logic is independent of the source.Originally posted by Giancarlo View PostConsidering the source, you have no logic.
He's obviously not an authority.Originally posted by Giancarlo View PostHere we go again. Coming from the guy who appealed to some authority in a YouTube video... Hypocrisy.
Do you have a brain damage? In two "arguments" in a row you claim that i appeal to authority and appeal to nobody, commenting the same video and the same person. Both "arguments" are logical fallacies, of course.Originally posted by Giancarlo View PostI have given very strong arguments while you give strawman and red herring arguments. You also proven to be hypocritical and have relied on a nobody in a YouTube video.
Well, if you can't make any logical arguments, i feel pity for you.Originally posted by Giancarlo View PostHypocrisy. It sucks to be you? You can't even keep your story straight.Knowledge is Power
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How come he did not poison Obama last week?

Is Obama immune?Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"
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Here you are... Making more statements about something you admittedly know little about. You are not a source nor are you credible.Originally posted by Ellestar View PostYou're the one who was denying facts - that is, videos with Hillary acting like a healthy person never would. You said these videos were doctored, however, it appears that both Hillary opponents and Hillary supporters assume that they're genuine videos of her.
I made plenty of counter arguments. The guy obviously is peddling an agenda and that clouds his judgment. Your statements about Hillary's health aren't factual and are nothing more than opinions.And you still didn't make any counter-arguments explaining facts that we see on a videos with Hillary. Naturally, i have no arguments to rebute because you don't have any arguments (other than logical fallacies like "he's not a real doctor" or "you don't know anything about XXX" or "it's nothing" or other things like that).
Misleading and distorting once again I see? He gave his unsubstantiated opinions. I already went into why. You seem to suffer from denial. What observable facts? Again you are stating mere opinions. And you nor can some fool on YouTube give a medical diagnosis. Watching YouTube videos doesn't cut it.My claim is that he gave an explanation for observable facts that we know about Clinton, observable facts that are confirmed to be genunie by both sides of the presidential election. And Clinton's side didn't make any arguments that explain observable facts. They only made some statements that we're supposed to believe as is, and they don't explain what we know from the videos.
Again more statements based only on your unsubstantiated opinion. You have done nothing to even convince me. It is obvious you hate Hillary just as much as your corrupt dictator of a leader.
That may be correct if that was you or me, but she has personal doctor and personal caretakers who's only job is to care about her. Or at least it's absolute majority of their job. If that's not enough so not to be dehydrated during the key moments of her presidential campaign, then she's not fit to be president anyway. After all, they blame other major incidents in previous years for dehydration, so, according to them, it's a very well known recurring problem.
Yet she cancelled her events in California and stated she some time for rest and to be with her dogs. This is fact.
Then his opinions are simply opinions and conjectures.He's obviously not an authority.
This statement doesn't even make sense.Do you have a brain damage? In two "arguments" in a row you claim that i appeal to authority and appeal to nobody, commenting the same video and the same person. Both "arguments" are logical fallacies, of course.
Come back to me when you actually have an argument.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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And with citing that source you completely destroy what's left of your credibility.Originally posted by Ellestar View Posthttp://dailycaller.com/2016/09/13/wa...soned-hillary/
Of course western press will put the blame for Hillary's health on Putin. I shouldn't have joked about it. Western press, and i guess some of the western readers who are supposed to believe it, are indeed that retarded.
Might as well post Alex Jones next too.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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Just to be on the safe side, I would suggest she does what he says.Originally posted by The Mad Monk View PostWhat I mean is, it's not what was said so much as who said it. Omalu is the pathologist who blew the lid off of brain injury among NFL players. He's famous.
Omalu does carry some weight and has credibility.
OneFoot, I am pretty sure the secret service keeps a closer eye on a sitting President and Obama was always suspicious of that stupid ass dictator anyways.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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