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  • Originally posted by Ellestar View Post
    Look, it's a simple logic. Some random person posting youtube video is not necessarily having an agenda and is not necessarily planning to post a video specifically so to cheat you or lie to you. But when you read western press, you know for a fact that the guy writing it is an employer of a certain specific capitalist who uses his asset to promote an agenda that is good for that specific capitalist. So, all western press is suspect while not all youtube videos are suspect.
    Look it is simple logic... Lots of individuals on YouTube have agendas and questionable political views. The videos on Hillary are doctored and many of those posting them are either funded by or linked to the Trump campaign (thus destroying all credibility).

    Your logic is terrible. YouTube is full of bull****.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • Sometimes you can find a nice video on YouTube. Usually a lot of turds. You picked up a doctored fake turd. Simple enough?
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • As i said, it was a first google search result, not my choice. Maybe it's fake, but what about actual Hillary footage, is it fake too? It definitely looks really weird.
        Knowledge is Power

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        • Originally posted by Ellestar View Post
          As i said, it was a first google search result, not my choice. Maybe it's fake, but what about actual Hillary footage, is it fake too? It definitely looks really weird.
          Um actual Hillary footage is actual footage. Lmao. YouTube doctored videos aren't. Man... Actual footage? Nothing looks weird... Except doctored videos on YouTube lmao.

          You're a laugh. thanks.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
            Um actual Hillary footage is actual footage. Lmao. YouTube doctored videos aren't. Man... Actual footage? Nothing looks weird... Except doctored videos on YouTube lmao.

            You're a laugh. thanks.

            Well, i don't know, there is the same episode on a video here, and Hillary acts really weird. I never saw a person in a real life acting like that.
            Knowledge is Power

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            • Originally posted by Ellestar View Post
              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ok-videos.html
              Well, i don't know, there is the same episode on a video here, and Hillary acts really weird. I never saw a person in a real life acting like that.
              Fake videos. Rudy is full of ****. Let's not even get pass the fact he has been kissing Trumps ass for months.

              Hillary acting like what? Doctored videos! Fake! Your fake outrage and concern is noted. Her health has been cleared. This is the same lady who had to deal with 11 hours of hearings. Your man Putin would be dozing off. Hillary let out one yawn over 11 hours of "hearings" on bull**** charges from the GOP.

              This is all a cover for a possible federal investigation into the October surprise.

              Trump bribing public officials including making a "donation" to Florida attorney general Pam Biondi to drop the investigation into Trump "University". Another fact falling into the spotlight is Trump potentially bribing Chris Christie so he could get a break on back state taxes he owed to New Jersey.




              Seriously this BS about her health has no substance. How about we get to real substance?

              Putin's man Trump could be looking at jail time.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • Anti-Trump PAC calls for DOJ probe into $25,000 campaign contribution to Pam Bondi. Get updates on the investigation and response today.


                Boom. It is coming. There could possibly be an impending investigation against Trump for violating federal and state law. A complaint was filed with the Department of Justice. I am sure Obama will make sure the investigation happens swiftly.

                The doctored videos were an attempt to distract from what is coming. I also suspect several Trump staffers could also be investigated for taking bribes from the Russians too... Manafort wasn't the only one.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
                  Fake videos. Rudy is full of ****. Let's not even get pass the fact he has been kissing Trumps ass for months.

                  Hillary acting like what? Doctored videos! Fake! Your fake outrage and concern is noted. Her health has been cleared. This is the same lady who had to deal with 11 hours of hearings. Your man Putin would be dozing off. Hillary let out one yawn over 11 hours of "hearings" on bull**** charges from the GOP.

                  Well, this article also confirms this episode.

                  Um, what? Sure it's an odd reaction. But it's more goofy than it is indicative that something is wrong with Clinton.
                  Given that i never saw such reaction anywhere, not even on videos IIRC, and definitely not IRL, i can't possibly believe that it's just nothing. Normal people don't act like that, period. That's my own personal observation from my own life experience, and i need some proof to change my opinion and believe that it's nothing.

                  The simple fact is that there is zero evidence that anything is seriously wrong with Clinton. If suffering an occasional coughing fit is evidence of a major health problem, then 75 percent of the country must have that mystery illness. And I am one of them.
                  Well, i also have some serious allergy issues. 4-5 out of 5 on all Poaceae that were tested, and 3-4 out of 5 on all trees (in both cases the ones common in my region). And some other stuff. And i was actually hospitalized at an age of 6 after i eaten some honey, i had a high temperature and a rash all over my body due to allergic reaction on honey, and doctors thought it's some kind of infectious disease, so they hospitalized me.

                  Yet, i don't have "occasional coughing fit", and neither do i know anyone who has. So "75% of the country" stuff is obvious lie - i doubt people in USA are THAT much different from people in Russia.

                  And, of course, new anti-allergy medicine is much-much better than before. Does she have no money for a medicine (or whatever it's called, a "drug" perhaps)?

                  So, i assume, that you, Giancarlo, just intentionally lied to me several times that Hillary videos are doctrored, and you're not to be trusted.
                  Knowledge is Power

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                  • It's really interesting that the dems would put all their cards on a candidate with Parkinsons. If true, this is the weirdest political choice ever.
                    Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                    GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                    • The drug wikilinks is posting about has a wide range of applications. Everything from drowsiness for not enough sleep, to Parkinson's.

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                      • Originally posted by Ellestar View Post
                        http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/t...th-are-absurd/
                        Well, this article also confirms this episode.
                        That article doesn't confirm anything. In fact it says the very claims you are making are absurd. Do you even read what you post?

                        Given that i never saw such reaction anywhere, not even on videos IIRC, and definitely not IRL, i can't possibly believe that it's just nothing. Normal people don't act like that, period. That's my own personal observation from my own life experience, and i need some proof to change my opinion and believe that it's nothing.
                        You are making things up at this point and you can believe whatever you want. Normal people don't act like what? There is nothing there. That is just the problem with people who hate CLinton. They make things up and run with everything. They have been doing this to her for three decades and they'll try to dig up any kind of dirt.

                        She is someone who sat through 11 hours of hearings without even flinching. I doubt you could do that. And I'm not going to try to change your opinion. You have a lot of wacky opinions and this is just another one.

                        These are all just falsehoods.

                        Right after the name of Hillary Clinton's physician appeared in the news, suspect medical records attributed to that doctor were "leaked" online.


                        Several right-wing web sites circulated a months-old photograph of Hillary Clinton slipping on some stairs as the 'latest evidence' that she is in poor health.


                        Well, i also have some serious allergy issues. 4-5 out of 5 on all Poaceae that were tested, and 3-4 out of 5 on all trees (in both cases the ones common in my region). And some other stuff. And i was actually hospitalized at an age of 6 after i eaten some honey, i had a high temperature and a rash all over my body due to allergic reaction on honey, and doctors thought it's some kind of infectious disease, so they hospitalized me.
                        And?

                        Yet, i don't have "occasional coughing fit", and neither do i know anyone who has. So "75% of the country" stuff is obvious lie - i doubt people in USA are THAT much different from people in Russia.
                        Um, you're wrong. Also, try to quote the right person.

                        So, i assume, that you, Giancarlo, just intentionally lied to me several times that Hillary videos are doctrored, and you're not to be trusted.
                        You are the one that's lying about her health. You cannot be trusted about anything because you're simply a mouthpiece for the Russian government.

                        And what did I lie about? Those youtube videos are doctored and lies. They are distorted and manipulated. Just like the GIF image you posted. You are not to be trusted at all. You can't even look at something objectively.
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave View Post
                          It's really interesting that the dems would put all their cards on a candidate with Parkinsons. If true, this is the weirdest political choice ever.
                          No proof for that one either. KEEP TRYING!

                          You want a weird choice? Take a look at the unstable moron running for the other side. His doctor didn't even publish a coherent letter on his health. He wrote the letter in five minutes.

                          If you guys had any serious concern, you would look at the older and incoherent Trump. I think he's suffering from an early onset of dementia.



                          Memory loss — “I never said that. I never did that.” How many times has Trump said this, with total conviction? How often does he switch his positions, within minutes sometimes? About as often as my mother did, and as often as Martha now does. And he says these things like he really believes them. An act or not? But this also led my mom to have very…
                          Repetitive speech patterns — People with early dementia don’t forget everything. Some things they remember quite well and keep repeating over and over and over again, like memories of past experiences. Early in her disease process, my mom could have easily repeated phrases like, “Build a wall!” or “Crooked Hillary!” And if we contradicted my mom, we got a boatload of...
                          Belligerence — Anyone who has ever tried to argue with someone with dementia knows all about this! “Mom, you just said...” “No, I didn’t!” You cannot win. You will be shouted down, yelled at, contradicted, accused of all sorts of wrongdoing. Whatever is happening, it is all your fault — or the media’s. Which is a lot like…
                          Paranoia — People were stealing stuff all of the time from my mom, especially me. People are stealing Martha’s stuff, too. She’s sure of it. Of course, people with dementia misplace and lose lots of things. But it is so much more painful for them to admit that than it is to blame others for stealing. As in, “Mexicans are stealing our jobs.” Which looks a lot like...
                          Poor judgment — Before my mom was diagnosed with ovarian cancer, she was having bouts of diarrhea, sometimes spoiling her underwear. She was too embarrassed to tell my dad, so she would try to flush her underwear down the toilet to hide the evidence. My dad had to call the plumber more than a few times to unplug it. Her drive for self-preservation and the appearance of normalcy caused her to make bad decisions. Which sometimes led to…
                          Impulsive behavior — The lack of self-control in people with dementia causes them to act impulsively in a number of situations. They become totally focused on whatever it is they need (or think they need) right now. Sometimes this impulsive behavior shows a clear...
                          Lack of empathy — My mom had no clue about how her behavior was affecting and/or hurting other people, nor did she seem to care. Both she and Martha shared a propensity for making hurtful comments about people’s appearances in public, e.g. “Boy, is she fat!” I just wanted to crawl in a hole and disappear, but arguing with my mom would have only caused a bigger scene. It reminds me of all of the hateful things Trump has said about people without having a clue as to how inappropriate these things are.
                          Trump often repeats what he says several times and does it a few moments later. I think he doesn't remember if he says it.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • Hillary is just up by one point. If she actually started campaigning again she could widen it a bit but as I have said she is a very weak candidate. I still think she will win but this should be a landslide not a dead heat.
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                            • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                              http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

                              Hillary is just up by one point. If she actually started campaigning again she could widen it a bit but as I have said she is a very weak candidate. I still think she will win but this should be a landslide not a dead heat.
                              LA Times is a terrible poll.

                              My favorite one is the NBC Poll where it sampled 32,000 people nationwide. Has her up by 6% and steady.

                              There is an October surprise coming and it'll be against Trump.

                              She's sitting patiently and she is indeed campaigning.
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • Polls after 9/26 will be more informative.
                                “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                                ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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