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  • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
    The WMD thing was a big screw up, no doubt about that. That said, anyone is still more creditable than Putin claiming he doesn't know where the little green men came from, that they are not Russians, only to later have to admit they were all Russian Army. Putin has done nothing but lie from day one.
    Are you stupid, or something? Who else can they be? Everyone knew they were Russians. Putin just didn't want to admit it officially at first, why should he make it simple for the opponents? Later, when it didn't really matter anymore, he admitted what was obvious to everyone. It's not like USA is admitting that they financed ISIS either, even desite all the photos. So USA has a long way to go in a truth department, compared to Russia.

    It's a completely different thing than faking a casus belli, especially faking it in United Nations. It was impossible to prove at that time that fake was indeed a fake.
    Knowledge is Power

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    • Originally posted by Ellestar View Post
      We are stupid, or something? Who else can they be? Everyone knew they were Russians. Putin just lied at first, why should he make it simple for the supporters of international law? Later, when Russia had fully stolen Crimea from the Ukraine and he was totally busted, he admitted what was obvious to everyone. It's not like USA is supporting ISIS either, even depsite Russian propoganda that says so. So USA is the way to go in a truth department, compared to Russia.

      It's a completely different thing than using faulty intelligence as a casus belli, especially when many members of the United Nations agreed with it. It was impossible to prove at that time that bad intelligence was indeed bad.
      Fixed that for you.
      "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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      • Originally posted by PLATO View Post
        It's a completely different thing than using faulty intelligence as a casus belli, especially when many members of the United Nations agreed with it. It was impossible to prove at that time that bad intelligence was indeed bad.
        Fine, you just admitted that the West thinks it's ok to attack a country if it has WMD (for example, Russia). Who will you blame this time that "it's not us, the West, its a bad Hitler or Napoleon" or whoever you paint as a bad sheep in a "peaceful West" when you attack Russia again and again?

        Now when i think about it, maybe you invented democracy to attack whoever you want. I mean, it's very convenient, you attack, say, Iraq, and then say "oops it's a bad Bush, and he's no longer our president because he's a bad guy and we're good guys". And then in several years you can attack again, who cares, you have many disposable presidents to put the blame on
        Knowledge is Power

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        • Yeah, disposable presidents is not something you have... right?
          "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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          • Russia was recently threatening Sweden with "military consequences" because Sweden announced it was beefing up its anti-submarine forces and air defense systems due to recent Russian incursions in to Swedish territory. Plus Putin was getting piss ed that 37% of the Swedish population now supports joining NATO while only 36% oppose (the rest are undecided or have no opinion). This is the first time more Swedes support membership than oppose it.

            What Pootie is too dense to understand is the more aggressive he gets and the more countries he invades the more he pushes the others into NATO for protection.
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            • Hey Saras!
              'We are ready to help Ukraine by all means, especially military,' says Lithuania's ambassador in Kiev - Anadolu Agency


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              • Lithuania
                I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
                [Brandon Roderick? You mean Brock's Toadie?][Hanged from Yggdrasil]

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                • Originally posted by self biased View Post
                  Lithuania
                  It was a box of ultra sharp potato peelers. But every bit helps!
                  Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
                  Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
                  Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.

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                  • My father was in Russia, he tried hard but it didn't turn out too good.
                    “I am the president now, the president of everybody.”
                    My message to the world:http://the18.com/sites/default/files...ynch-DOJ_0.png
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                    • Your father? you impostor! It was my father!
                      “I am the president now, the president of everybody.”
                      The Grinch who stole football:
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                      • Originally posted by Ellestar View Post
                        Fine, you just admitted that the West thinks it's ok to attack a country if it has WMD (for example, Russia). Who will you blame this time that "it's not us, the West, its a bad Hitler or Napoleon" or whoever you paint as a bad sheep in a "peaceful West" when you attack Russia again and again?
                        I wasn't aware that Russia had over a dozen Security Council resolutions concerning WMD against them. Nice try at a stupid twist, but no luck on that one.

                        Now when i think about it, maybe you invented democracy to attack whoever you want. I mean, it's very convenient, you attack, say, Iraq, and then say "oops it's a bad Bush, and he's no longer our president because he's a bad guy and we're good guys". And then in several years you can attack again, who cares, you have many disposable presidents to put the blame on
                        As opposed to Russia annexing Crimea and invading Donbass. Dictatorships only need one "leader" right? Maybe Putin reinvented dictatorship so he could rape the Russian economy, invade whoever he wanted and pollute the minds of his citizens with nationalistic and false propaganda. That is actually a lot closer to the truth.
                        "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                        • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                          you people.
                          again...
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                            Hey Saras!
                            'We are ready to help Ukraine by all means, especially military,' says Lithuania's ambassador in Kiev - Anadolu Agency


                            I wouldn't be surprised to see Poland do the same thing. They have been very out spoken.
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                            • Originally posted by PLATO View Post
                              I wasn't aware that Russia had over a dozen Security Council resolutions concerning WMD against them. Nice try at a stupid twist, but no luck on that one.
                              But you don't mention it in your press, right? So when the time will come, you can say, hey, these guys also have WMDs... Let's attack them. And your brainwashed people will support it. Just like they recently supported nuking Russia.

                              Originally posted by PLATO View Post
                              Maybe Putin reinvented dictatorship so he could rape the Russian economy
                              LOL. Before telling that bull**** to Russians, you may actually try to compare Yeltsin's economy to a Putin's one. Your statement sounds like "During the Great Depression, USA economy was the strongest, but then a new president came and ruined our powerful Great Depression-era economy".
                              Knowledge is Power

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                              • remember guys russia isn't involved in ukraine

                                have a fun russian music video


                                Clearly the separatists found these MLRSs in a museum somewhere in Donetsk
                                If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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