what happened to the großrossiya thread

[onodera]

Not sure if it is the same word in Russian, but do you find "Jeb" Bush to be funny?

Serbians seem to like it

Джеб, not Еб.

[Sava]

I just thought it would be funny if the American president was named **** Bush

[onodera]

They already had a Dick as a VP.

[Sava]

wrong ****

[Dinner]

The UN wants an independent commission to investigate the shooting down of the civilian airliner over Russian occupied Ukraine. Naturally, Putin is dead set against it because he knows the evidence would show the Russian Army shot it down.

http://news.yahoo.com/mh17-tribunal-idea-counterproductive-russian-official-225236976.html

[Ellestar]

http://killedbypolice.net/

I think democratic US police rivals Auschwitz concentration camp in a number of kills per year Surprisingly, in a dictatorship Russia police killed 13 (most of them were terrorists during a terror acts in Caucasus), while USA police killed about 500 people in 2015.

[Ellestar]

The UN wants an independent commission to investigate the shooting down of the civilian airliner over Russian occupied Ukraine. Naturally, Putin is dead set against it because he knows the evidence would show the Russian Army shot it down.

http://news.yahoo.com/mh17-tribunal-...225236976.html

That's just a propaganda for retards. Western officials didn't even finish official investigation, and someone already demands a tribunal, before the results of an investigation.

What would have been productive is UN-backed independent investigation, not a tribunal. Given that many of the current investigators proven their anti-Russian and pro-Ukrainian bias.

Overall, plans of the West are obvious - West controls the investigation, but at the same time they want to have a bigger punch, by making so that results of their western investigation will be enforced by international tribunal. That's a cute plan, but no thanks - either none or both should be international for obvious reasons.

[Dinner]

Facts are just propaganda, huh? No wonder Putin spends so much time trying to hide the facts.

[Ellestar]

Facts are just propaganda, huh? No wonder Putin spends so much time trying to hide the facts.

Facts are that Russia is against it. Propaganda is that Russia against it because "Naturally, Putin is dead set against it because he knows the evidence would show the Russian Army shot it down."

And your 2nd post in a row is another example of a propaganda for idiots - you post a mix of facts and propaganda, and then call it together "facts", omitting propaganda part.

And Western press does exactly the same, in a tiny little bit more sublte way. The fact is that they blame it on only one source in their article "Suspicions immediately fell on the separatists, who may have used a surface-to-air missile supplied by Russia to shoot down the plane." so they imply that Russia is against it because it covers separatists. Of course, everyone with a brain (like Russians) knows that Western propaganda trick.

Also, another propaganda trick (well-known because it's attributed to Western politicians - either Hitler or Goebbels) is to repeat a lie again and again until everyone will believe it, and that's exactly what Western press did in that article and many other articles by mentioning only separatists as suspects.

[PLATO]

repeat a lie again and again until everyone will believe it

Self diagnosis is the first step to recovery....

Of course most on Poly aren't stupid enough to believe Russian lies, but it does appear that the "repeat a lie again and again until everyone will believe it" does have some traction in Russia itself...

[The Mad Monk]

I don't think you can have it both ways. And that's part of the problem.

Unless you mean it as a threat, it's not very reassuring.

I believe the operative term here would be "tripwire" -- a slightly beefier one, now.

[regexcellent]

Ellestar, you'd have to be deaf, dumb, and blind--like most Russians are, apparently--not to realize the Russian army shot the ****ing plane down.

[pchang]

The other explanation is that he is in on it.

[Ellestar]

Ellestar, you'd have to be deaf, dumb, and blind--like most Russians are, apparently--not to realize the Russian army shot the ****ing plane down.

Seriously, how Russian army can shot it down if it's a scheduled civilian flight? It's either a Ukrainian provocation or a mistake by someone who doesn't have access to information about civilian flights - and that's only rebels. It's so easy to think - why you westerners never do?

[Ellestar]

By the way, why West doesn't ask for a creation of independent comission to investigate Odessa Massacre?

And i still didn't hear any explanations why a mass murdering democratic USA police killed 500 people in half a year.

You only whine that i "lie", without any specifics. So, show me how westerners don't lie and truthfully and profoundly answer these questions