Shouldn't something be done about Mexico?

[loinburger]

What studies that you read during your exhaustive research into drug addiction indicated that criminalizing drug use did anything to reduce consumption?

[Kidlicious]

If you are at all interested in educating yourself on addiction, then I recommend that you start with this video. To sum up: addiction results in the brain thinking that drugs are essential for life (this is especially noticeable in animal studies, where animals will starve to death because they're so fixated on taking cocaine or whatever), so threats of punishment do not in any way help the addict - the need for a high outweighs the threat of punishment.

You're pretending to be an expert on addiction without offering anything of substance, so I'm assuming that everything you've "learned" has either come from your own fevered imagination or from theofascist blogs that reinforce your own prejudices. In the unlikely event that this is not the case then you would look like much less of an ******* if you actually said anything substantive on addiction, rather than insulting people who obviously know more than you do.

Do you know anything about recovery?

In most cases the addict hits rock bottom. Enabling prevents the addict from hitting rock bottom.

Next the addict comes to believe that a higher power can restore them to sanity.

Ever hear of the 12 steps?

[loinburger]

In most cases the addict hits rock bottom. Enabling prevents the addict from hitting rock bottom.

So your plan is to lock up addicts and make their lives so miserable that they have no choice but to enter a recovery program? How's that working out - how many prisoners recover from addiction, compared to non-prisoners? Or do you have absolutely no evidence that your idiotic plan is working, but you're willing to incarcerate addicts on the off chance that maybe it's doing some good (assuming you actually want to do some good, and don't just want to punish people because you enjoy it)? Because those are the actions of a ****ty human being.

[loinburger]

Hey Kidicious, if you subject addicts to torture then you'll help them hit rock bottom, "for their own good!"

[Berzerker]

Do you know anything about recovery?

In most cases the addict hits rock bottom. Enabling prevents the addict from hitting rock bottom.

Next the addict comes to believe that a higher power can restore them to sanity.

Ever hear of the 12 steps?

exchanging one addiction for another

but you're kinda getting sidetracked, most of the violence comes from the illegal pot trade

[Kidlicious]

This is not about whether or not I am a ****ty human being. Stop trying to get me to pump myself up. You might try an open NA meeting. Non addicts are allowed to attend, and you might learn something.

Legalizing is giving up on people

[Ben Kenobi]

from theofascist blogs that reinforce your own prejudices

Uh, don't drag us into this, please. Kid speaks for himself. Nothing more nor less.

[loinburger]

This is not about whether or not I am a ****ty human being. Stop trying to get me to pump myself up. You might try an open NA meeting. Non addicts are allowed to attend, and you might learn something.

Legalizing is giving up on people

I've been a recovering alcoholic for six years, I understand the twelve steps, and the vast majority of people in recovery would be appalled at your attempting to use the twelve steps as a justification for torturing people.

People are supposed to hit rock bottom in their own time and on their own terms - forcing them into it is sadistic.

[Kidlicious]

exchanging one addiction for another

but you're kinda getting sidetracked, most of the violence comes from the illegal pot trade

Google Serenity Prayer. It's a regular prayer for 12 step groups. But if you get addicted to religion that's much better than drugs.

Berz, there are negative effects either way.

[loinburger]

If your real-life persona is anything like your online persona, then you are one of the least serene people I have ever encountered. You're nothing but ignorance and impotent rage.

One of the things you need to accept as something that you cannot change is other people's addictions, rather than trying to immorally force change through incarceration.

[Kidlicious]

I've been a recovering alcoholic for six years, I understand the twelve steps, and the vast majority of people in recovery would be appalled at your attempting to use the twelve steps as a justification for torturing people.

People are supposed to hit rock bottom in their own time and on their own terms - forcing them into it is sadistic.

So you're in recovery and you troll on this? Nice.

[loinburger]

Am I supposed to sit back and let you ignorantly spout off about a recovery process that you obviously don't understand? If correcting your hatred and stupidity is "trolling" then so be it.

[Kidlicious]

If you went to prison because of your drinking whose responsibility would it be

[Berzerker]

Google Serenity Prayer. It's a regular prayer for 12 step groups. But if you get addicted to religion that's much better than drugs.

Berz, there are negative effects either way.

drug addicts didn't hijack airplanes and fly them into buildings

[loinburger]

If you went to prison because of your drinking whose responsibility would it be

If I broke a law due to drinking irresponsibly, e.g. drunk driving, then it would be my responsibility. If instead I broke a law put in place by idiots like you that made possession and consumption illegal then it would be primarily your responsibility for being a fascist.