Palestinian Christians Refuse To Be Pushed Off Their Land

[Bereta_Eder]

Nope.
edit: crap. I hate it when people edit
The end result is very different from what you describe.
Actually one could say that neocons are more dangerous than jihadists.

[Dinner]

You mean like the Flemish and Walloons?

The Flemish and the Walloons haven't been at war with each other for 70 years.

[Al B. Sure!]

Nope.
You're an idiot.
The end result is very different from what you describe.
Actually one could say that neocons are more dangerous than jihadists.

What do you think neoconservative means?

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben is not a neoconservative, though. He is a Canadian Christian Taliban.

I know real Canadian Taliban. You should stick to topics you know something about, Albert.

[Dinner]

That man has more decency in his little finger compared to you if you'd been cloned a thousand times over!!!

That's the thing, population exchanges are always indiscriminate. Always. We could be talking about the second coming of Jesus but if he's on the wrong side of the partition line then he has to go to the other side or realize he's highly likely to simply be executed by an angry mob. No, it's not just but maybe the people who kept pushing for a two state solution should have sat down and realized what that actually means in detail. It's going to mean every single damned person on the wrong side of the partition line either moves to the right side of the line or face the very likely event that they will be killed.

So, I ask you again, as a practical matter why does this case matter? It already said he's surrounded by Jewish settlements so it is perfectly obvious he's not going to be on the right side of the partition line.

[Sava]

Actually one could say that neocons are more dangerous than jihadists.

neocons have done more to harm this country than jihadist could ever hope to

[Dinner]

Actually one could say that neocons are more dangerous than jihadists.

That's true. It's also perfectly true that, since 9/11, right wing domestic terrorists have killed more people in America than Muslim terrorists. That's a fact.

http://www.alternet.org/media/americans-are-more-likely-be-killed-right-wing-terrorists-muslims-medias-afraid-say-it

[Dinner]

Hell, look at what happened in Nagorno-Karabakh in former USSR. Muslims and Christians came to blows for the 4 billionth time in the region and the only thing which has kept the peace for the last 30 years has been population exchange and defacto partition. If you want real peace then that is what is going to have to happen and it will happen to all members of the ethnic groups involved no matter how deserving or undeserving. Again, knowing that any real two state solution is going to, by necessity, involve a hell of a lot of defacto ethnic cleansing so that everyone ends up in their own respective state... Why does this individual case matter? If you don't have a population exchange then you don't have peace, period. You want peace which actually will last longer than the time it takes the ink to dry? Ok, then you have to have population exchanges and this guy is going to have to move any way as will all the Jews in the outer settlements. Hell, when you get right down to it the 20% of the population of Israel who are Palestinian Arabs will have to go to the Palestinian side as well other wise the conflict will just continue. It's going to be ugly as hell so I have a hard time shedding tears for one guy's predicament.

[Al B. Sure!]

That is excluding 9/11 for some reason

[Dinner]

Because it's a one of event while people are more interested in looking at long term trends?

[Al B. Sure!]

Seems a little weird to exclude an event where 3000 people died and say Islamic terrorism has only killed 30 American civilians. Intellectually dishonest weird.

[The Mad Monk]

The Flemish and the Walloons haven't been at war with each other for 70 years.

Exactly.

[Dinner]

So asking why partition isn't needed there is rather dumb as there isn't history of conflict like there is between Palestinians and Jewish people. You want to end the fighting? Separate the people. If you attempt a two state solution without doing that then you won't have any lasting peace as conflict will inevetably pop back up over all manner of petty disputes. Partition and population transfer would result in lasting peace though because everyone would be on their own side of the border.

[Imran Siddiqui]

That really worked for India and Pakistan after all

[Dinner]

Largely it has. Yes, there has been several wars between national groups and on going terrorism but at least it stopped the bloody block by block massacres which were happening in every town and village over an entire sub-content.