Gruff off topic

[Lorizael]

Don't worry about me.

I'll worry about you as long as you keep complaining how uncivil Poly is while simultaneously harassing posters over issues that should have been put to rest a decade ago.

[Sava]

I'll worry about you as long as you keep complaining how uncivil Poly is while simultaneously harassing posters over issues that should have been put to rest a decade ago.

... and using his pics to annoy people, hoping to get a response

[Lancer]

Why all the drama, Lancer?

Just go post in the other forum if you don't like it here.

Because I don't like it here. Aeson said something along the lines of how this site is the member's site, though he certainly owns it. (Unless its an Apr fools thing for '15) It is what we make it. By posting trash some make it trashy. By calling people to do better I want to make it better. You post what you like and so will I.

[Lorizael]

Based on that logic, you appear to want Poly to be a forum dedicated to your griping about the past.

[Lancer]

Why all the drama, Lancer?

What drama? Leaders lead through trying to gain the enthusiasm of other people. I'm a leader.

Just because nobody is following it doesn't mean I'm not a leader, it means the ground is not fertile to grow a movement. It used to be, but not any more.

[Lorizael]

Seriously, constantly complaining about how poster X ruined Poly is not going to make poster X stop ruining Poly. If you want the atmosphere here to be better, be the better poster.

[Lancer]

Good comment Lori. I am certainly "the better poster", not the better man, but the better poster. I post about hope and change. Nothing comes easy, so you focus on the fights, and that's your choice.

[Nikolai]

Heavens Lancer.

[Lancer]

Let her rip Nik, tell me what's on your mind.

[Lancer]

Frankly the only person posting trash is you. The posters in this thread have been remarkably civil when it comes to dealing with the way you're obviously goading them...

You are improving the site, Lancer, by getting the forum to band together in a positive manner against a common foe - pity that foe happens to be you...

Mob, I never said there was any changing you. That's way above my pay grade.

[kentonio]

I'm not sure how digging up a decade old dispute everyone else had forgotten about and trying to sow division between the new owner and his mod staff counts as being a 'better poster'. Admittedly Poly is a wretched hive of villainy, but if you're going to try and take the moral high ground, it'd help if you weren't hurling mud at other people while you did it.

[Nikolai]

You're presenting the bad Lancer here. Totally obsessed with negativity of the past.

[Lorizael]

I'm actually a poster who favors stricter moderation of the OT, Lancer. When I was first made a moderator back in 2009, I tried my damndest to encourage a more civil atmosphere at Poly. But I didn't do it by constantly complaining about how things used to be better in the good old days before people changed. Why? Because that kind of behavior is exactly the kind of behavior I didn't want at Poly. It's when our posts are invariably personal that things become ugly here. Then people take it personally and feelings get hurt and regrettable words get tossed around. The way to make a better Poly is to encourage lively discussion, discussion not tinged with personal vendettas and old grudges. Stop making things so personal, and Poly will stop being so ugly.

[Sava]

Just because nobody is following it doesn't mean I'm not a leader

Uhm... yes it does.

I hate having to use the dictionary... but when people don't know what words mean, I kind of have to.

the person who leads or commands a group, organization, or country.

You lack a group. You are not a leader.

At best, you are mildly deranged.

[Sava]

Frankly the only person posting trash is you. The posters in this thread have been remarkably civil when it comes to dealing with the way you're obviously goading them...