Roman Catholic Church lowers its standards

[Ben Kenobi]

The Church keeps records on everything, and has had rules for investigating these cases for over 25 years. If you support the cover up, you're an enemy of the faith.

Indeed they do. I trust the Church to investigate these cases.

Now, Pax, since the Church is investigating them, what reason does the Church have to release these files to you?

[Pax]

I have given you my answer already. Now you can either choose to accept it or not choose to accept it. It's up to your Pax. If you find the answer unsatisfactory, then you should be looking at yourself and asking, "why is this answer insufficient to me?" "What am I trying to prove here."

I do not believe you have my best interest at hand, Pax.

1. YOU HAVE NEVER ANSWERED MY QUESTION. 2. I have no good or bad interest in you. I simply want to know what you would do if you were faced with this issue in your personal life. 3. I am not asking you about why you trust the catholic church. 4. I answered your question with the assumption that you would answer mine. 5. I am not trying to prove anything. I want to know if your child was molested would you seek legal remedy or removal from office?

[Pax]

BTW my answer to your question and all of your statements are in no way relevant to my question.

[Ben Kenobi]

1. YOU HAVE NEVER ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

I have answered your question already.

2. I have no good or bad interest in you.

You insulted my coworkers, my place of work, my boss and my livelihood. Why, exactly, should I give you the time of day?

I simply want to know what you would do if you were faced with this issue in your personal life.

And I have answered you.

3. I am not asking you about why you trust the catholic church.

Really. Which is why you're attacking it so fiercely?

4. I answered your question with the assumption that you would answer mine.

Are you willing to take back the comments you made surrounding my employer?

5. I am not trying to prove anything. I want to know if your child was molested would you seek legal remedy or removal from office?

And I have answered that question. I would blame myself for permitting my child to come to harm, and I would take steps to rectify this so that this would not occur again.

[Ben Kenobi]

BTW my answer to your question and all of your statements are in no way relevant to my question.

Would you give the time of day to someone who, just a short while, said this?

You, your school and it's curriculum do not represent the whole of Texas anymore than David Koresh. I imagine your two groups are on the same field

And then this?

From what I have gathered your school is ****ed up, has a ****ed curriculum and ****ed up teachers. I feel bad for the children.

And now you're claiming

I have no good or bad interest in you

I don't believe you, Pax. You're a liar.

If you're willing to publicly rescind the comments directed at my coworkers, my boss and my employer, then perhaps we can talk.

[kentonio]

Really. Which is why you're attacking it so fiercely?

Pax isn't attacking it fiercely. Fiercely would be saying you're a despicable bunch of primitives who cover up the molestation of children, collect up a vast fortune while the worlds poor starve, believe in a fairy story that you've manipulated for thousands of years in the name of money and power, and perpetrate vile deeds on a pretty much weekly basis like contributing to the mass spread of AIDS in Africa that's killing millions.

That would be a fierce attack.

[Ben Kenobi]

Pax isn't attacking it fiercely. Fiercely would be saying you're a despicable bunch of primitives who cover up the molestation of children, collect up a vast fortune while the worlds poor starve, believe in a fairy story that you've manipulated for thousands of years in the name of money and power, and perpetrate vile deeds on a pretty much weekly basis like contributing to the mass spread of AIDS in Africa that's killing millions.

You left out Whore of Babylon.

[kentonio]

Catholic girls reputations can look after themselves.

[Pax]

Ben, just because I think you're ****ed up does not mean I have any animosity towards you. I learned in the last few years that I can't save everyone. I wish I could. But I can only work to save my small portion of the world and hope others are doing their part.
Whenever I see injustice and can effect change, I do so.
It's sort of the reason for my question. I wanted to know what YOU would do in a position where you were effected. Guilt is an emotion. Happy Sad Mad Glad...emotions.
What are you doing..What would you do if this situation directly effected you.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me

From what I can piece together, you would RECTIFY the situation. In other words you don't know, would do nothing or are afraid to tell us what you would do for fear of further criticism or mockery. You are right, you have answered my question with, "no comment." A cowards answer and I do accept your cowardly answer.

[molly bloom]

Why do you think I moved to Texas, Pax?

I'm sure there are many reasons, main of which would be the lack of certification required for you to teach what you laughably call 'history'.

puts out a quality education

Even if we believed this, there's a glaring exception...

[molly bloom]

I agree that the welfare of children is important, but if we have to violate laws, we've crossed the line.

Oh, you mean such as the laws regarding the age of consent ?

And against physical and sexual abuse ?

Foirbidding the use of slave labour ?

Conspiracy to pervert the course of justice ?

Et al.

Just a few laws the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church and its priests and nuns (and lay members) have broken.

Recently.

[molly bloom]

Indeed. You can be a Roman Catholic convert and an idiot and a bigot.

Now, the million dollar question is why doesn't Sister Bendy acknowledge this?

Fixed, for accuracy's sake.

[molly bloom]

Church cover ups of a different kind too :

“In
New York’s clerical circles, Spellman’s sex life was a source of profound
embarrassment and shame to many priests,” Cooney had written in the original
manuscript of his book. When Mitchell Levitas, who was then the editor of The
New York Times Book Review, received the manuscript for review, he realized
it was a book that would make big news; he sent the book over to Arthur Gelb,
who was then the managing editor of The New York Times. Gelb assigned
reporter Ed McDowell to the story. McDowell interviewed Cooney, and went about
interviewing others who were relevant to the story, including church officials.




The archdiocese,
however, went ballistic when presented with the information, and became determined
to keep it from being published. Chief among those orchestrating the cleansing
of Spellman’s past sex life was none other than the current gay-basher
Monsignor Clark, who, in an interview with the Times, called the assertions
“preposterous,” commenting that “if you had any idea of [Spellman's]
New England background” you’d realize these were “foolish”
charges. (I guess there are no homosexuals north of Connecticut, right?)

http://nypress.com/cardinal-spellmans-dark-legacy/

And to think, there was a real life Cardinal Sin, but he was in the Philippines....

[molly bloom]

You left out Whore of Babylon.

Did the Vatican vanish recently ?

[rah]

There's no way BK can answer the what if it was your child. He doesn't have any and it's obvious from his answers that again, he's trying to act like as an expert on something that he has absolutely no clue about. Come back when you actually have a child and you might find your answer a little different.

Such a douche. And demanding an apology for being called on being the douche that you are is hilarious. Stop being such a douche and people will stop treating you like one.

Ok, maybe not.