Please don't take this too seriously.

[pchang]

How about if you just explain to her exactly how and why she has ****ed up your life (and how much)? You can take a summary from this thread.

[Lorizael]

Funny thing is, I've thought about sending her a link to this thread before. I've even re-read the thread from her POV. It would probably make her sad.

[pchang]

misery loves company.

[The Mad Monk]

Does she know you post here, and your handle? She may have done already.

[Lorizael]

She knows I post here, and she probably knows my handle. I used to show her threads from Poly, especially the threads that were about her. We always got a kick out of them. But I doubt she's read this thread. If she were concerned about me for any reason, she'd just message me by some means, or contact our mutual friend.

[pchang]

Pretty typical for an asymmetric relationship. You care way more about her than she cares about you.

[Lorizael]

She cared a ****ton about me. That just didn't stop her from (unconsciously) manipulating me.

[pchang]

She cared a ****ton about me. That just didn't stop her from (unconsciously) manipulating me.

Don't mistake absolute values with relative values. "She cared a ****ton about me" is not inconsistent with "You care way more about her than she cares for you". How much of your time was spent obsessing over her? How much time do you think she spend obsessing over you?

[Sava]

"Obsessing" can be a symptom... and should not be used to measure levels of like/care/love.

[Lorizael]

I'm not sure if time spent obsessing is a good measure of how much we cared about each other. She cared about me a lot. When I was dirt **** poor but she was slightly less dirt **** poor, she offered me money. When I was an inconsolable slobbering mess because of a fight with a girlfriend, she dropped everything to come comfort me. She was way more honest with me than I was with her. She was incredibly patient with me and my passive and stubborn ways. There is so much she did to show me how much she cared for me. Letters she would write me. Voicemails she would leave me. There was very little I did to show her I cared, because, again, I'm a very passive kind of friend.

And there's a whole lot wrong with the way she treated me, too, which is why I don't talk to her anymore. But it's not so one-sided as Poly believes.

[pchang]

I'm not sure if time spent obsessing is a good measure of how much we cared about each other. She cared about me a lot. When I was dirt **** poor but she was slightly less dirt **** poor, she offered me money. When I was an inconsolable slobbering mess because of a fight with a girlfriend, she dropped everything to come comfort me. She was way more honest with me than I was with her. She was incredibly patient with me and my passive and stubborn ways. There is so much she did to show me how much she cared for me. Letters she would write me. Voicemails she would leave me. There was very little I did to show her I cared, because, again, I'm a very passive kind of friend.

And there's a whole lot wrong with the way she treated me, too, which is why I don't talk to her anymore. But it's not so one-sided as Poly believes.

That was then. How about now?

[Lorizael]

Now she doesn't talk to me because she knows I don't want her to.

[Aeson]

Well, with 7 billion people and only 1 worst or best at anything......

But if we're specific enough, there's way more than 7 billion things to be best or worst at!

I am simultaneously the best and worst at moving to a third world country to set up a farm and own Apolyton ... all while not doing podcasts, living in Chicago, or being Greek.

[Aeson]

Lorizael is the best CivBE wiki admin at making me threads about love lost ... IN THE WORLD, maybe even the UNIVERSE!

[Sava]

Lori