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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View PostWhen is someone going to referrence the Kleck study?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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No you didn't. You are a liar. No, finally something I agree with, you're not. Apparently there are 220 million native Portuguese speakers, so again you are wrong.
And again - if people who are more likely to get carjacked in this fashion are also more likely to own a gun - then we would expect to see them get in more incidents and have a greater likelihood of them being fatal. The study shows no indication this type of analysis has been performed.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Originally posted by C0ckney View Postthe point though is that the risk to perpetrator, the victim and indeed passersby, increases when the victim is armed.
As for your anecdote, I already posted a competing one. I would however be interested in seeing an English translation of the study you reference if one exists. It might not given the purpose of the study and its intended audience but a translation would make it easier for me to see what it says for myself.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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for anyone who likes a good laugh, here is what you get when you put what ben posted through google translate.
Para José Fauri, pesquisas como essa são sempre apenas parcialmente verÃdicas, pois não levam em conta os crimes que foram evitados e, portanto, não se transformam em registro policial.For José Fauri, searches like this are always only partially true, because not take into account the crimes that were avoided and therefore do not become police record.
Essentially - the data doesn't support the evidence that gun owners are more likely to face confrontation than those without. The suppressive effect hasn't been tested at all. They only look at confrontations and he cautions against using the data to support confiscation, when there is evidence to suggest that a suppressive effect will cull all but the most determined theives."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton
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Originally posted by DinoDoc View PostAccording to the study I linked to in the beginning of the thread: states [obviously within the US] with restrictions on the carrying of concealed weapons had higher gun-related murder rates than other states.
As for your anecdote, I already posted a competing one. I would however be interested in seeing an English translation of the study you reference if one exists. It might not given the purpose of the study and its intended audience but a translation would make it easier for me to see what it says for myself.
i posted a summary of a study (in post 62) which addresses the specific issue of robbery situations with armed and unarmed victims."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton
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Originally posted by C0ckney View Posta state, or city etc. may have a higher murder rate than another for all sorts of reasons. unless you control for that, then such studies are worthless.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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that's very vague and could mean anything. could you point out the specific passage you had in mind?"The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton
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catching ben lying is like catching the sun rising in the east.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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Yes, typos are evidence against comprehension.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
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