More proof that racism does not exist in America today.

[Kidlicious]

Well, yes. Your system of equations has too many variables. There is insufficient data here to conclude discrimination unless one assumes that there is no variation in the severity and the incidence of crime.

Yeah. Sure. You never change.

[MrFun]

Things turned out OK this time, but lets think about what might have happened had the papers actually been forged, it was a child trafficking situation and two days later this 13 year old girl ends up on a police blotter as a murder victim. The outrage would then be on the officers for not double-checking on the legitimacy of the papers. The public would be after these cops and blame them for not doing a through job. Then on top of that, how do you think the cops who stopped them would feel about letting her go only to be killed? You can't correct that. She'd always be dead and those cops would have to live with the guilt that they could have and should have done a better job. This is the kind of reason police officers have one of the highest suicide rates in the nation.

Now to start pointing out some of the other glaring errors: The two men were not detained for 6 hours. The girl was. And the police did not detain the girl (at least not for very long). The girl was turned over to Child Protective Services. CPS kept the girl for 6 hours, not the police as the story says. That is an error. Once CPS has the girl, it is then their policies and procedures that kept the girl detained.

There are two things I'd like clarified:
1) Was the mother contacted before or after the girl was turned over to CPS?

The article sort-of implies that the mother was contacted prior to turning the girl over to CPS, but the timeline of events is very vague. Anyway, as I have said, once the girl was turned over to CPS, any further detention is on them, not the police.

2) By what means did the cops get the information to contact the mother.

Did they get the info from the males? If they did, how reliable is it? If they were child traffickers, don't you think they'd have some BS impersonator set up for just this type of situation? "Yeah, just call this number. It's her mother. She'll tell you everything is legit." Yeah. Sure. Now had they'd gotten the info from the girl, it'd be more believable.

To me, the worst part is the simple little phrase that has been overlooked until now: "he called into questioning our parenting". This is a personal judgment and should not have happened; however, I'm not really sure to whom the mother is referring to anymore. It says 'he', but it could just as easily been the CPS guys or the cops. I just don't know.

Yes, let's make hypothetical stuff up, and cook up an alternative scenario that did not happen, to make us feel better about the situation.

[Ban Kenobi]

He should apologize for raining on your anti-police hate parade.

[Ben Kenobi]

Yeah. Sure. You never change.

You're absolutely right. Women are the source of all evil in the world today.

[Kidlicious]

You're absolutely right. Women are the source of all evil in the world today.

I didn't know you had tits.

[Wezil]

Tits wouldn't surprise me.

He certainly is a ****.

[molly bloom]

As a poor white single male driving a rustbucket.

So how did the police 'know' you were poor ? You could, for instance, have been a spoilt rich student out looking for drugs in a neighbourhood you describe as being linked with Class A drugs. Even drug taking trustafarians aren't all so stupid as to drive a conspicuously pricey looking vehicle in what you amusingly refer to as 'the 'hood' .

Molly, you really don't think I understand the game you play?

What game would that be ?

I decided to amuse myself and follow up on all the historians you cited. It confirmed my exact suspicions.

I look forward with a certain amount of eagerness, bordering on hysteria, to fewer absurd historical errors in your posts.

It confirmed my exact suspicions.

That Owen Chadwick wasn't the reincarnation of Edward VI ? Could have told you that. That you need to read more widely ? See previous answer. That they know more about the history of religion and religious dissent than you do ? See previous answer....

I don't think you are dumb.

Aww, shucks. I'm all moist now.

For some reason you expect me not to do due diligence with your sources.

You mean that bit where you claimed Owen Chadwick was anti-Roman Catholic because in your frenzied panic you'd confused him with the author of the book he was reviewing ?

That certainly informed my view of you.

And no - if you won't accept Catholic priests, then I'm under not obligation to accept reverands.

I've never refused to accept an historian's work or opinion simply because of their faith- Roman Catholic or Anglican, Marxist or Muslim, as long as it doesn't obviously distort their narrative, I'm happy to read the work with an open mind.

I've accepted (and quoted) the on-line Catholic Encyclopaedia- for instance when it mentioned the figure of nearly 300 Protestants executed for their faith by Mary Tudor. A figure which you disputed and yet you signally failed to support your ludicrously lower estimate with any evidence of your own.

[molly bloom]

Yes, it's a good thing they pulled me over rather than someone actually committing a crime.

So people with dark skins are pulled over only when they're committing a crime ? I think not.

British posters of a certain age will recall this sketch :

Constable Savage.... en route to the unmissed and unlamented Special Patrol Group.

[Ben Kenobi]

So how did the police 'know' you were poor ?

The fact that I drove a rustbucket 1987 Mustang hatchback? It was a crap car and it looked like crap. But, it was mine and paid for.

You could, for instance, have been a spoilt rich student out looking for drugs in a neighbourhood you describe as being linked with Class A drugs.

It's possible that I was a student with a ****ty car who was into the drug scene. Which is why I got my ass probed so many times by the cops in that area.

Even drug taking trustafarians aren't all so stupid as to drive a conspicuously pricey looking vehicle in what you amusingly refer to as 'the 'hood' .

Umm, a 1987 mustang hatchback is a ****ty car.

What game would that be ?

The same one you're always playing, molly. Pissing on the Catholic church.

I've never refused to accept an historian's work or opinion simply because of their faith

Yeah, you have. Sorry molly. You're very prejudiced towards Catholics faithful to the magisterium.

I've accepted (and quoted) the on-line Catholic Encyclopaedia- for instance when it mentioned the figure of nearly 300 Protestants executed for their faith by Mary Tudor. A figure which you disputed and yet you signally failed to support your ludicrously lower estimate with any evidence of your own.

I did provide evidence from Eamon Duffy. Which you wrote off instantly. So I feel less than obligated to bother with your sources, one communist and two COE reverends with half a century of service wrt the Catholic martyrs on England.

[Ben Kenobi]

So people with dark skins are pulled over only when they're committing a crime ? I think not.

Eventually I figured out what was going on and I moved to a nicer neighbourhood. Zero cop problems afterwards.

[Dauphin]

Why don't you show an example of "the criminal community" being "vocal against profiling"?

I know that many fraudsters *must* complain about being profiled as extroverted, charming, friendly and intelligent.

[snrjefe]

Yes, it's a good thing they pulled me over rather than someone actually committing a crime.

Isn't this one of the key points that others are raising as a reason why profiling and stop and frisk are bull****? If there is no crime taking place, then why profile the person to begin with?

[Ben Kenobi]

Isn't this one of the key points that others are raising as a reason why profiling and stop and frisk are bull****? If there is no crime taking place, then why profile the person to begin with?

Because cops aren't mindreaders? They had good reasons to suspect that I might have drugs on me.

[Ban Kenobi]

Surely driving a cheap car isn't a good reason to suspect someone has drugs?

[snrjefe]

So, then you really aren't a fan of this whole freedom and presumption of innocence we're supposed to have going here in the USA? Or does that only apply for us decent, law-abiding whitefolk? I hear the American Socialist White People's Party is rallying on a bridge near Chicago. Perhaps you can join with them since the Jew is using the Black as muscle against you. What are you going to do about it, Whitey, just sit there?