Super typhoon Haiyan slams the Philippines

[Wezil]

You should totally teach them a lesson by doing as much as you can to help completely **** the planet. That'll show em.

Good answer in defence of hypocrisy.

[kentonio]

Good answer in defence of hypocrisy.

Who gives a **** about some perceived hypocrisy on the part of the scientists? If they're right and the world is quite quickly going to hell in a ****-basket, then I'm not surprised they're living it up. It's not like anyone is taking the slightest bit of notice of their advice anyway, so why bother holding back?

[giblets]

I bet the idea of having royals live lives of luxury while telling the peasants to consume less seems perfectly natural to the British.

[kentonio]

Don't get me wrong, the idea of the super rich jetting around lecturing others on their consumption ****s me off royally, but when it's scientists holding conferences I'm damned if I'm going to go looking for a high horse to clamber on.

They're providing data that says if we don't act now, we're going to suffer horrific consequences. What, are we supposed to go through that just a prove a goddam point?

[Ben Kenobi]

there is any muddy water in climate change is on the deniers behalf, the scientific consensus is clear.

Lord Kelvin said the same. We have only 400 years of oxygen!

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=EP18980730.2.105

[Ben Kenobi]

As global demand for energy increases, it's going to become more cost effective to be energy efficient. We've got an opportunity in the richest countries to become leaders in those technologies.

Actually the opposite will happen. Energy will get cheaper. As Demand increases, prices drop.

[giblets]

Actually the opposite will happen. Energy will get cheaper. As Demand increases, prices drop.

lol
that's why land is so cheap in Manhattan

[Ben Kenobi]

that's why land is so cheap in Manhattan

Land is expensive in manhattan because supply is artificially restricted.

Where supply is unhindered - price equilibrium is reached at a lower level for items under greater demand than for items under lesser demand. This is why computers today are cheaper than in 1980, even though demand is so much higher.

[giblets]

And why wouldn't the energy supply be "artificially" restricted?

[giblets]

As demand increases, prices drop.

[Patroklos]

Don't get me wrong, the idea of the super rich jetting around lecturing others on their consumption ****s me off royally, but when it's scientists holding conferences I'm damned if I'm going to go looking for a high horse to clamber on.

They're providing data that says if we don't act now, we're going to suffer horrific consequences. What, are we supposed to go through that just a prove a goddam point?

Scientists, kentonio's new unaccountable priesthood

[kentonio]

Scientists, kentonio's new unaccountable priesthood

If you want to hold them accountable then disprove their science.

[MikeH]

As demand increases, prices drop.

[MikeH]

There is a reasonable point in there though - there is virtually limitless energy available in renewables, and the cost per unit for those will come down as demand increases and technology improves. It's just the space they require that's the problem. But that'll improve too.

[Patroklos]

If you want to hold them accountable then disprove their science.

What does their science have to do with globe trotting in gas guzzling jets? Do you understand what accountability means?