Now you see, this is homophobic, and it makes Christianity look bad, and I feel ashamed by association.

[Elok]

If people didn't want to get AIDS, they shouldn't have been born Black.

Ben, that's a terrible thing to say!

[Sava]

I'm tempted to call it a troll.

But it's not a troll if you believe it.

[giblets]

Ben doesn't want to cure AIDS because gays have a higher chance of getting it than everyone else... classy.

[MRT144]

This is the second time in a week that Ben Kenobi has been wrong, told someone to Google it, and been shown up, which if it was just in general would be tolerable but both happen to be very specifically about personally knowing people who were fired (conveniently furthering his persecution complex) when in reality they were on the skids and resigned. Ben, find a new tactic, please.

P.S. If you think what happened to AJL at what appears to be just a press conference was going to happen at a soup kitchen in the US, I have a bridge to sell you. Otherwise you have merely proven that at some point in time someone somewhere in the world did a mean thing to somebody else - only in this case the "somebody else" is mostly famous for calling AIDS "cosmic justice" so you'll excuse me if I am miserly with my sympathies, much as you appear to be miserly about feeding the poor unless they are proselytized throughout the whole experience.

I love how the rage is increasing.

[Berzerker]

I'm not quite sure how Jesus saying, "he made them male and female" condones marriage outside of one man and one woman. Just the opposite in fact.

He made them male and female refers to people, not one man and one woman and marriage aint even mentioned, God told them to be fruitful and multiply.

And it's not my interpretation either, Berz. Can you please stop with that? You make it sound like I invented this whole cloth. Are you arguing that this isn't the interpretation of the Catholic church? I'm basically reciting the catechism at you here.

They aint here and I'm not debating them, its your interpretation

So you've decided to create your own history of Paul where you end up blaming the state apparatus (of the Jews, no less - a vassal at best of the Roman Empire) for his persecution of Christians? Why am I not surprised?

The man does refer to himself as a Pharisee (Phil 3:5), but obviously he was just working for the state. This is why friends don't let friends listen to libertarians.

Pharisees were lawyers and the legal arm of the Jewish state, not the religious authorities.

[The Mad Monk]

What Jewish state?

[Ben Kenobi]

I love how the rage is increasing.

Yeah, I'm angry at someone I can't be angry with right now.

So any other polytubbies care to try their luck?

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben doesn't want to cure AIDS because gays have a higher chance of getting it than everyone else... classy.

There's already a cure for AIDS. I'd rather spend scarce resources on something that doesn't have a known cure. Like cancer or tuberculosis. (which btw, is what kills most AIDS patients in the third world), but then, you'd know that if you knew anything about the AIDS crisis there.

[Ben Kenobi]

He made them male and female refers to people, not one man and one woman and marriage aint even mentioned

Which people? Adam and Eve. Jesus argues that the model for marriage is Adam and Eve, one man and one woman for life.

I love it how you whine about Paul this and Paul that, but when confronted with Jesus you don't even follow him. Anyone surprised? Nope.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben, that's a terrible thing to say!

If two percent of the population has 70 percent of the incidence, math would suggest not engaging in the vector transmission of this disease. Which, since AIDS is contracted by sexual contact, this means not ****ing other men in the ass.

This isn't difficult. Don't **** men in the ass, and you are much less likely to contract AIDS. Get your partner tested before having sex and you'll never catch AIDS at all. If they balk, meh, not worth it.

Can you do this with cancer or Tuberculosis? No. So we need to spend scarce resources on something without a known cure.

[giblets]

There's already a cure for AIDS. I'd rather spend scarce resources on something that doesn't have a known cure. Like cancer or tuberculosis. (which btw, is what kills most AIDS patients in the third world), but then, you'd know that if you knew anything about the AIDS crisis there.

1. Do you understand how parentheses are supposed to work? The sentence is supposed to make sense if you take out the stuff in parentheses.
2. Your cure for AIDS... let me guess, it's "stop having sex"? As if everyone who has it got it from ****ing... yeah, good luck implementing that solution. Actually you just look like a cold hearted *******... people spend their money on all sorts of frivolous crap yet you act like the only way to get funding for fighting tuberculosis and cancer is to take it away from fighting AIDS... moron.

[giblets]

DP

[Ben Kenobi]

2. Your cure for AIDS... let me guess, it's "stop having sex"?

No, it's stop ****ing men in the ass.

As if everyone who has it got it from ****ing... yeah, good luck implementing that solution.

Right - the other transmission vector is from sharing needles. So don't share dirty needles and you'll be just fine. Oh, and don't accept blood donations from gay men because they are much more likely to have AIDS than the general population.

people spend their money on all sorts of frivolous crap

That AIDS gets more funding than cancer is just retarded crap.

the only way to get funding for fighting tuberculosis and cancer is to take it away from fighting AIDS

Scarce resources. I'm saying they should be more of a priority as - "If I have one dollar to give to one of AIDS, tuberculosis and cancer", that dollar should go to TB or cancer, not AIDS.

Treat the disease that's an airborn bacteria not the one that has a disease vector which is much more easily controlled.

I don't really see why, "don't **** other men in the ass", and "get your partner checked out", and "stay faithful to your partner" are heartless. Basic common ****ing sense. So easy a caveman could do it.

[Ben Kenobi]

Cavemen are apparently smarter than Gribbler because they can figure out how not to contract AIDS.

[kentonio]

You're a genuinely revolting piece of ****, you know that?

You lied out your ass previously and claimed that homosexuals made up '90%+' of AID's cases, and only revised that when I pointed out that you were a lying bastard. What I also didn't mention was that those numbers were only relevant to the US.

Let's look at Africa shall we?

                                   Adult prevalence             Number of people            AIDS deaths, 
Country                            ages 15–49, 2011            living with HIV, 2011           2011
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Cameroon                                 4.6%                       550,000                    34,000
Central African Republic                 4.6%                       130,000                    10,000
Equatorial Guinea                        4.7%                        20,000                    <1,000
Gabon                                    5.0%                        46,000                     2,500
Kenya                                    6.2%                     1,600,000                    62,000
Tanzania                                 5.1%                     1,600,000                    84,000
Uganda                                   7.2%                     1,400,000                    62,000
Côte d'Ivoire                            3.0%                       360,000                    23,000
Nigeria                                  3.7%                     3,400,000                   210,000
Ghana                                    1.5%                       230,000                    23,000
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Botswana                                 23.4%                      300,000                     4,200
Lesotho                                  23.3%                      320,000                    14,000
Malawi                                   10.0%                      910,000                    44,000
Mozambique                               11.3%                    1,400,000                    74,000
Namibia                                  13.4%                      190,000                     5,000
South Africa                             17.3%                    5,600,000                   270,000
Swaziland                                26.0%                      190,000                     6,800
Zambia                                   12.5%                      970,000                    31,000
Zimbabwe                                 14.9%                    1,200,000                    58,000
[/b]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_Africa

That's just the biggest ones. Millions of people slowly dying of a disease they can't afford treatment for and for which there is no ****ing cure you lying ****. 270,000 people dead in a single year in just one country, and you ****ing dare to try and downplay that as not important? You are the lowest form of filth.

Current estimate is that nearly 1% of the population of the entire ****ing world is living with HIV now. There are an estimated 1,700,000 deaths every year and an estimated 2,500,000 new infections each year. This is a disease that is killing Africa and is devastating lives everywhere.

There's already a cure for AIDS.

There is no cure for AIDS you despicable ****.

Yeah, I'm angry at someone I can't be angry with right now.

So any other polytubbies care to try their luck?

You're an intellectual midget with a victim complex who hides behind his stupid radicalized interpretation of religion because he's too pathetic to deal with the world. You're a sad little virgin who lashes out at minorities because people who get bullied tend to try and bully others. You're a sexist, a racist and a thoroughly ****ing unpleasant human being.

**** off.