Pope sends direct message to Ben

[Nikolai]

Funny man. OT. GT is Norwegian short hand, I merely miswrote.

[ricketyclik]

Written by humans, but stamped by God and to be followed.

Says who? The Bible, that's who. Can't you see a conundrum?

[Nikolai]

Says who? The Bible, that's who. Can't you see a conundrum?

Correct. It's all about faith. And the fact that empirically, the Bible has proven to be trustworthy where it can be tested. But of course, it's faith.

[ricketyclik]

Correct. It's all about faith. And the fact that empirically, the Bible has proven to be trustworthy where it can be tested. But of course, it's faith.

I don't have a problem with that, particularly when it is acknowledged as a belief rather than a fact.

[Berzerker]

This is false. They were expelled for their disobedience in eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge despite being deliberately told not to do so. You've said this before. This is wrong.

Do not that they were commanded to, "fill the earth and subdue it".

You married Berz?

I'm not telling people what to do and God kicked them out because their disobedience resulted in children. God gave that command to the 6th day people, not Adam and Eve. Whether or not Adam was among those people is another matter, but Eve was not made on the 6th day. She wasn't even there when God told Adam not to eat the apple. The Serpent was responsible for Adam and Eve procreating, the fig leaves are the proof.

I consider the ideology to be a poisonous one that trains people to do terrorist attacks. I'm surprised that someone who calls himself libertarian isn't condemning an attack designed to stop a woman for receiving citizenship from Harper. Why do you think she's applying for citizenship? Because she's got an enormous target on her back. Harper gets it. I'm surprised you don't.

Women who attempt to teach women how to get an education can end up dead because Islam doesn't support the education of women.

Being black is not an ideology

[Berzerker]

well damn

i love bible debates

[Ben Kenobi]

I'm not telling people what to do and God kicked them out because their disobedience resulted in children.

Again, this is false. They were not kicked out for having sex when God explicitly commanded them to fill the earth and subdue it. They were kicked out for disobedience.

God gave that command to the 6th day people, not Adam and Eve.

You have a strange interpretation.

The Serpent was responsible for Adam and Eve procreating, the fig leaves are the proof.

Uh. No. The fig leaves are indication that they understood what shame was. Prior to that, they did not know. They were innocent. Does a child know to cover up?

[Berzerker]

Eve was not made on the 6th day, I dont believe Adam was either. There was a gap in time between the 6th day people and the events in the Garden. Adam was descended from the 6th day people, but Eve was not - she came from God and Adam's rib.

They weren't kicked out for disobedience, here's the text:

And Jehovah God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever-- 23 therefore Jehovah God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden the Cherubim, and the flame of a sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Nothing in there about disobedience, Ben... Course it doesn't say they were kicked out for the ability to procreate, but thats what the fig leaves represent.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Game of Thrones?

Obviously Daenerys is the new Jesus... that's really going to make Catholics mad to have a female savior.

[kentonio]

Obviously Daenerys is the new Jesus... that's really going to make Catholics mad to have a female savior.

It'd make me convert to Christianity.

[Imran Siddiqui]

She even has a Trinity of Dragons.... it's perfect!

[regexcellent]

If you'd read the books you'd think otherwise. She is the ****ing worst. Unless you're Imran cause he has dumb opinions on the books, I think he's a closet darkstar lover.

Spoiler:

GET. THE ****. OUT OF MEEREEN.

[Bereta_Eder]

(I discovered r/unexpectedthuglife today)

[Ben Kenobi]

Eve was not made on the 6th day

Your assertion that the command be fruitful and multiply doesn't apply to Adam and Eve is untenable. Why would God compel these supposed 'six day people', and not Adam and Eve? It stretches credibility.

I dont believe Adam was either.

You can believe whatever you like. There's no evidence for your presupposition.

There was a gap in time between the 6th day people and the events in the Garden.

The first chapter is written as an overview of creation. The second, the specific story of Adam and Eve. Are you really this dense, Berz? Two different chapters, two different stories.

Adam was descended from the 6th day people, but Eve was not - she came from God and Adam's rib.

This is false.

"Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being."

Genesis 2:7

Genesis 2 even goes on to explicitly refute your crap.

"That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh."

They weren't kicked out for disobedience.

Yes. They were. Had they obeyed they would have stayed in.

Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living

Oh, look, Genesis 3 also refutes your 'hypothesis'.

[ricketyclik]

Two different chapters, two different stories.

Pretty much sums the Bible up, right there.