"I don't feel special or entitled..."

[MRT144]

Being a social work is only a poor choice if you think income is the end all be all of work. Its a tough job that doesnt have good outcomes a lot of the times and it pays poorly but people do it because it is believed to be necessary for the protection of vulnerable people in this society.

Do you think most government employees should just volunteer their time free because you don't see value in what they do?

[MRT144]

As long as that authority isn't the government.

Lorzael, they get to arbitrarily pick and choose when they respect government authority.

[Kuciwalker]

I mean, what Im constantly seeing is this attitude that people should break themselves to conform to a society, irrespective of situation.

Yep, pretty much. People should be aspiring to this:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/unambitious-loser-with-happy-fulfilling-life-still,33233/

not "oh I work at a non-profit that helps Americans get access to clean water blah blah blah"

[regexcellent]

I don't see much value in what they do, because clearly there isn't much if they are willing to be paid so little to do it.

[regexcellent]

Lorzael, they get to arbitrarily pick and choose when they respect government authority.

I respect government authority. I don't break the law. I might not like some laws but I don't break them, and I protest them with my vote and within the rules, regulations, and ordinances of whatever jurisdiction I'm in.

But don't let this distract you from the idiocy in getting a degree in social work or whatever those people do in college.

[giblets]

What a depressing thread.

[MRT144]

Conforming to society's expectations and respecting authority are a key part of maturity.

Ah yes, the immature Civil Right's Movement. The immature Gay Marriage Movement. The immature labor movement.

conforming and respecting authority isnt indicative of ANYTHING. Why would you assign such acute and specific values to something like that?

[Hauldren Collider]

So even if we entertain this idea that choices are the end all be all...

You don't think theres a fundamental problem with the college education system that bilks students out of money for useless degrees, by your own outlook on life? Like the real problem is people choose classes offered by the university with departments full of people in that subject...

Your answer of "well not every person should go to college" is ignorant of what employers deem important and fundamental. I am unable to get a large amount of jobs because I lack a bachelors degree, and while my opinion on what is pertinent to job function might be interesting, the fact remains, I am beholden in opportunities by employers requirements, rightly or wrongly.

I find it ridiculous that STEM is the end all be all of valid education in America, or at least is the primrose path to financial security in the country. People without those aptitudes should just take a seat, shut up, and make me a coffee and not complain one iota about it...

It isn't as if the employability (or lack thereof) of humanities and arts is some sort of secret. But yes, the fact that the government pays people to make bad choices is a big problem.

[MRT144]

I respect government authority. I don't break the law. I might not like some laws but I don't break them, and I protest them with my vote and within the rules, regulations, and ordinances of whatever jurisdiction I'm in.

But don't let this distract you from the idiocy in getting a degree in social work or whatever those people do in college.

So why do you think that whats right for you, is right for everyone and why do you get so bent out of shape when people don't live up to your ethos?

[regexcellent]

Ah yes, the immature Civil Right's Movement. The immature Gay Marriage Movement. The immature labor movement.

conforming and respecting authority isnt indicative of ANYTHING. Why would you assign such acute and specific values to something like that?

Oh god, the labor movement. **** the labor movement. The police should have just shot them all so that we wouldn't have unions today. Communist ****s.

[MRT144]

It isn't as if the employability (or lack thereof) of humanities and arts is some sort of secret. But yes, the fact that the government pays people to make bad choices is a big problem.

Overall, whats the point of chiding people for making bad choices other than some sort of cathartic release for yourself over making "right choices"

[regexcellent]

why do you get so bent out of shape when people don't live up to your ethos?

Because they're not living up to my ethos.

[regexcellent]

Overall, whats the point of chiding people for making bad choices other than some sort of cathartic release for yourself over making "right choices"

Well, let's start with the fact that they're borrowing money they can't pay back to spend on "studying what they love" (read: entertainment) and then *****ing when they're in a boatload of debt after they graduate.

[Kuciwalker]

Ah yes, the immature Civil Right's Movement. The immature Gay Marriage Movement.

Civil rights and gay marriage are excellent because they allow minorities and gays to participate in our mainstream social institutions

Marriage
Gay Marriage

[MRT144]

Oh god, the labor movement. **** the labor movement. The police should have just shot them all so that we wouldn't have unions today. Communist ****s.

So you don't believe anyone ever should have the right to collectively bargain based on some idealistic world you would like to see made reality but which likely would never exist. How do you face reality every day when its so in-congruent with your ideals?