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  • #31
    Maybe they should have authority to at least make the financial question moot so these asshats can't hide behind the veneer of bull**** of "REASONS! Totally non-partisan reasons! HONEST!"

    What possible objection would one have for denying a pass through fund to ensure that polling places arent closed for financial considerations? They hate voting? they think it will cost more than an f-22 raptor?
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    • #32
      Ogie, are you seriously saying that what happened in NC was a good thing given all the considerations of the polling location? I know you and others like to obfuscate your opinions with legalism but how do you feel about this, really? You think this is a net benefit to voting in NC?
      "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
        Second, no, we shouldn't make it easy as possible to exercise that right. We want to prevent fraud as well.

        Please, please, please provide evidence of this fraud that conservatives are always talking about.
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        • #34
          Is JFK really going to be the 50 year old rallying cry of fraud?
          "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
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          • #35
            I want to live in a world where voter fraud is so pernicious and rampant that we have to restrict voting access (not improve methods of voting but instead make it harder to vote), but not so pernicious and rampant that the federal government must oversee the elections. HC is already there and he's pretty funny.

            Make voting harder
            ???
            Prevent fraud
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            • #36
              Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
              Ogie, are you seriously saying that what happened in NC was a good thing given all the considerations of the polling location? I know you and others like to obfuscate your opinions with legalism but how do you feel about this, really? You think this is a net benefit to voting in NC?
              Rather nuetral on it. I don't see it as a legitamite excuse for not voting.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe View Post
                The federal governemnt has no authority to insert itself into the proper course of elections at the state save for those areas of that have been previously decided where civil rights violations were noted. (and that has seen a significnat hit per the latest SCOTUS rulings) Otherwise the feds are to leave the administration of the elections to the sovereign states.

                Thus states have the authority to conduct their elections as they see fit otherwise, up to and including potential proportional allocation of electoral delegates.
                Not entirely. If there are violations of Equal Protection (beyond simply civil rights violations, per VRA) in the voting, the Federal government can, judicially, step in (see Bush v. Gore for example).
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                  Please, please, please provide evidence of this fraud that conservatives are always talking about.
                  Here's a quick one.
                  No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
                    [url=Here's a quick one.[/url]
                    Fail
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
                      So in theory, HC would want to make it harder to vote for a larger amount of people to stamp out the small incidence voter fraud, most of which is unintentional.
                      "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
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                      • #41
                        that state should have the federal government oversee their elections.
                        So then. Let's do the same for Washington state.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                          So then. Let's do the same for Washington state.
                          They already kind of do oversee our elections. We vote by mail.
                          "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                          'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                          • #43
                            Republicans are scumbags. Their party is dying. They want to take America with it. At some point, they should just be labeled a terrorist organization. That's what they are.
                            To us, it is the BEAST.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Sava View Post
                              Republicans are scumbags. Their party is dying. They want to take America with it. At some point, they should just be labeled a terrorist organization. That's what they are.
                              You go there Khrushchev! Bang that shoe!!
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
                                Explain to me how making it harder to get to a polling station prevents fraud any more than it prevents legitimate voting and I might agree with you.
                                It doesn't, and I wasn't defending it, but your comment was just claptrap posing as a sense of irony.
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