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  • #16
    Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
    The right to vote is quite possibly the most important right a citizen has in a democracy. The government should make it as easy as possible for citizens to exercise that right. Anyone who believes that putting restrictions on gun ownership is a violation of our rights should clearly feel the same way here, right?
    Internet voting, then?

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    • #17
      If we could do internet voting without any more fraud than we have now, I'd be 100% behind it. I'd write and circulate the petition to get an amendment to the constitution requiring it.

      However, and this comes from someone who works at an online market research firm, we're decades away from that if not more.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe View Post
        They haven't been denied the right to vote. They merely are too lazy to do so. I see no undue hardship imposed upon the slacker youth to vote when the same conditions apply to the vast majority of rural voters across the US who need to drive miles and miles to a polling station to vote.
        It seems that changing the status quo to make it harder to vote is imposing hardship unduly. That rural voters have to vote that way is a hardship induced by the choice to live in a rural area..
        "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
        'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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        • #19
          Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
          It seems that changing the status quo to make it harder to vote is imposing hardship unduly. That rural voters have to vote that way is a hardship induced by the choice to live in a rural area.
          Boone, NC is pretty damn rural. It is in the mountains and not the easiest place to get to.
          "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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          • #20
            Originally posted by PLATO View Post
            Boone, NC is pretty damn rural. It is in the mountains and not the easiest place to get to.
            Then why was the polling position moved from the densest, easiest place in the area to access (on campus) to a remote location within the same county? It seems even more stupid to move it.
            "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
            'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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            • #21
              Then again, Republicans vote for stupid things and are generally pretty stupid when it comes to governing.
              "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
              'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                This is retarded and doesn't follow. For one, I don't think anyone here has said that you need unrestricted access to firearms, perhaps that we shouldn't increase our current restrictions, but that's based on a factual question of "will more restrictions be helpful", not an ideological question. It has absolutely no relation to this. Second, no, we shouldn't make it easy as possible to exercise that right. We want to prevent fraud as well.
                Some states already do make it as easy as possible. Vote by mail.
                "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
                  Then why was the polling position moved from the densest, easiest place in the area to access (on campus) to a remote location within the same county? It seems even more stupid to move it.
                  Scarcity of polling volunteer resources. Availability of polling location, any of a host of reasons.

                  Sounds like the rub comes from closing down a number of polling locations. Too frikkin bad someone has to move in that case in order to vote. waah waah waah. Someone is upset.

                  Again give me an objective standard, rather than this I was maligned BS.

                  Some states already do make it as easy as possible. Vote by mail.
                  And given this is an option, I find it incredibly difficult to claim that someones right to vote is infringed.
                  "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                  “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by PLATO View Post
                    What does this have to do with "black folk"?
                    It would be his go to claim as anyone who disagrees with his view is inherently racist.
                    "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                    “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe View Post
                      Scarcity of polling volunteer resources. Availability of polling location, any of a host of reasons.

                      Sounds like the rub comes from closing down a number of polling locations. Too frikkin bad someone has to move in that case in order to vote. waah waah waah. Someone is upset.

                      Again give me an objective standard, rather than this I was maligned BS.



                      And given this is an option, I find it incredibly difficult to claim that someones right to vote is infringed.
                      It was decided by a partisan vote along partisan lines.

                      IF a state is too poor to ensure that there is reasonable access for a significant amount of voters, that state should have the federal government oversee their elections.
                      "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                      'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                      • #26
                        Its funny to me that here in the northwest we vote by mail, and in the rest of the country only a proprietary voting machine with numerous technological problems is considered "safe"
                        "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                        'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
                          It was decided by a partisan vote along partisan lines.
                          So?

                          IF a state is too poor to ensure that there is reasonable access for a significant amount of voters, that state should have the federal government oversee their elections.
                          Ummm no that would be the reason why states have the authority to conduct their elections per their own sovereign rules. When resources are scarce they have to by majoritarian rule decide how to allocate them.
                          "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                          • #28
                            dp
                            "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                            “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe View Post
                              Ummm no that would be the reason why states have the authority to conduct their elections per their own sovereign rules. When resources are scarce they have to by majoritarian rule decide how to allocate them.
                              This is ridiculous. The Federal government has more than enough dosh to ensure elections. NC is too proud to ask for money for elections but not proud enough to beg for Uncle Sugar's largess when it comes to everything else?
                              "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                              'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                              • #30
                                The federal governemnt has no authority to insert itself into the proper course of elections at the state save for those areas of that have been previously decided where civil rights violations were noted. (and that has seen a significnat hit per the latest SCOTUS rulings) Otherwise the feds are to leave the administration of the elections to the sovereign states.

                                Thus states have the authority to conduct their elections as they see fit otherwise, up to and including potential proportional allocation of electoral delegates.
                                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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