Which group, besides furries, is the most discrimianted against throughout the entire world (in the present day)?

[Hauldren Collider]

I have nothing but sympathy for them, even so, "gender dysphoria" is a mental illness and ought to be treated as such. You're doing an unbelievable disservice by having them go through permanent disfigurement and then trying to convince everyone that this is somehow normal and something they should endorse.

[notyoueither]

That's the point, it is no longer considered a mental illness. To continue insisting otherwise when the medical community has moved on is bigoted.

[giblets]

"Homosexuals are mentally ill and you're doing them a huge disservice by having them marry someone else of the same sex and trying to convince everyone that this is somehow normal and something they should endorse."

[Ben Kenobi]

So people who have unwanted attractions shouldn't be able to seek therapy?

[Hauldren Collider]

Oh, it's not an illness, yet it calls for invasive surgery. Shut the **** up.

And "medical community" is such a farce. You can find plenty of doctors who wouldn't tell parents it's a good idea to have their confused kids cut on. Or a confused adult that he should be cut on.

What you will find is a lot of politically motivated psychiatrists who will encourage people who are clearly deranged to do something drastic to their own bodies. It often ends up, strangely enough, not solving all their problems, but now those problems can be laid at the feet of bigotry or whatnot.

[Ben Kenobi]

All problems can be solved by labelling the opposition as bigots, HC. Haven't you figured this out by now? Saying that maybe, just maybe, you have a psychological problem not solved by chopping your dick off is apparently bad medicine these days.

Hey - in medieval times they used to bloodlet by leeches. You should always listen to the medical establishment.

[giblets]

Oh, it's not an illness, yet it calls for invasive surgery. Shut the **** up.

And "medical community" is such a farce. You can find plenty of doctors who wouldn't tell parents it's a good idea to have their confused kids cut on. Or a confused adult that he should be cut on.

What you will find is a lot of politically motivated psychiatrists who will encourage people who are clearly deranged to do something drastic to their own bodies. It often ends up, strangely enough, not solving all their problems, but now those problems can be laid at the feet of bigotry or whatnot.

Right, all this nonsense about sexual reassignment surgery is for political gain. It all helps Obama, somehow. Certainly the psychiatrists couldn't possibly be relying on their experience with people with gender dysphoria to reach their conclusions.

[Aeson]

When the body and mind don't match up, HC and Ben think the body is right and the mind is wrong. Given their minds, it's understandable they would come to such conclusions ...

[Aeson]

As for the surgery. I like having my dick. If I didn't like having my dick, I don't see why I should be forced to keep it anymore than say ... keeping a third nipple or a mole on my face if I had one. I definitely don't see why HC and Ben should be able to tell people what they should or should not like to keep on their bodies.

[Ben Kenobi]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/jul/30/health.mentalhealth

The review of more than 100 international medical studies of post-operative transsexuals by the University of Birmingham's aggressive research intelligence facility (Arif) found no robust scientific evidence that gender reassignment surgery is clinically effective.

Bad science is just that, bad science.

[Ben Kenobi]

I definitely don't see why HC and Ben should be able to tell people what they should or should not like to keep on their bodies.

So you're saying that quacks should be allowed to practice?

[Aeson]

So you're saying that quacks should be allowed to practice?

Depends on what you mean by "practice" and "quacks" ...

[Ben Kenobi]

Depends on what you mean by "practice" and "quacks" ...

Quackery is quackery. I don't see why we should tolerate bad medicine that hurts people.

[ZEE]

As someone with a LEGITIMATE, and documented, mental illness I can say that yes there are lots of quacks in the mental health Profession...

and Plenty of those who are not. The rest of the "deBate" here is meaningless draBBle brought on by Poasters Boaredom.

[Aeson]

Quackery is quackery. I don't see why we should tolerate bad medicine that hurts people.

Thanks captain obvious. Now answer the question or I'm just going to have to assume your balls were cut off by a rouge psychiatrist.