Snoopy contraception bet

[Ben Kenobi]

Many have. Have you ever heard of AIDS.

Are you saying I will get AIDS and die unless I buy a condom today?

[Ben Kenobi]

They'd better start taking relationship advice from people who have never been married (Ben Kenobi and the Catholic clergy).

And my aunt got married and changed her mind and got divorced. She said it was a huge stress on her and she changed her mind when she wanted chiildren.

So, that's 1 anecdote to 1 anecdote.

[Ben Kenobi]

Who the **** are you to tell people they can't get married because they don't share your primitive beliefs?

Who are you to say that people have to get married in order to have a happy relationship? You don't.

It's a shame you have such a shallow, narrow little understanding of the rich breadth of relationships. Maybe one day you might meet a woman who actually makes you understand how much you don't know about the world.

Actually, I have met such a woman. I find it amusing how folks know so much about my life that is not so.

[kentonio]

Who are you to say that people have to get married in order to have a happy relationship? You don't.

Ah ok, so you're happy with couples having sexual relationships outside of wedlock? Cool, the catholic church must be evolving.

Actually, I have met such a woman. I find it amusing how folks know so much about my life that is not so.

You're a misogynist who thinks his religious beliefs carry more weight than the complex needs of actual human relationships. She clearly did a pretty poor job.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ah ok, so you're happy with couples having sexual relationships outside of wedlock? Cool, the catholic church must be evolving.

So you're saying that you can't have a happy relationship without sex?

You're a misogynist who thinks his religious beliefs carry more weight than the complex needs of actual human relationships. She clearly did a pretty poor job.

I'm not the one saying that you need sex in order to have a happy relationship with a woman. You are.

I am saying that if you want to get married you should want to have children with your hubby. For some reason that bothers you.

[N35t0r]

I am saying that if you want to get married you should want to have children with your hubby. For some reason that bothers you.

Gee, you are imposing your own preconditions on what should people who get married want and people get upset? Who would have thought?

[kentonio]

So you're saying that you can't have a happy relationship without sex?

A few very rare people manage it, and later in life people sometimes fall into never having sex, but generally no you can't.

I'm not the one saying that you need sex in order to have a happy relationship with a woman. You are.

Yes I am saying exactly that.

I am saying that if you want to get married you should want to have children with your hubby. For some reason that bothers you.

Firstly, please never use the word 'hubby' again, you sound ridiculous. Secondly, yes it bothers me because it's stupid and nonsensical.

[Ben Kenobi]

Gee, you are imposing your own preconditions on what should people who get married want and people get upset? Who would have thought?

When it suits you I speak for the entirety of the Catholic church. When it does not, I speak for myself only. Choose.

[Ben Kenobi]

A few very rare people manage it, and later in life people sometimes fall into never having sex, but generally no you can't.

So what you are saying is you cannot have a happy relationship with a woman without sex. Ok, sir. Whatever you say.

Firstly, please never use the word 'hubby' again, you sound ridiculous. Secondly, yes it bothers me because it's stupid and nonsensical.

Why?

[N35t0r]

When it suits you I speak for the entirety of the Catholic church.

What part of you saying "I am saying" involves the catholic church as a whole?

[kentonio]

So what you are saying is you cannot have a happy relationship with a woman without sex. Ok, sir. Whatever you say.

Sex is a natural human urge. If you don't feel that urge then you are in the mass, mass minority. If you spend your entire life suppressing it then you're a fool.

Why?

You keep insisting that if you want to get married you should have children. You have never justified that in any way other than the bible. You're the one trying to limit what people can do, so how about you explain why.

[kentonio]

DP

[Ben Kenobi]

What part of you saying "I am saying" involves the catholic church as a whole?

Nothing. I'm perplexed by it as you.

One post argues I speak for myself then another:

Cool, the catholic church must be evolving.

So either I'm speaking for the Catholic church or for me. I'd like him to decide. I'm happy to state the official teachings of the Church, but then I have to insert the disclaimer that people who aren't Catholics aren't expected to live by Catholic church teachings.

[Ben Kenobi]

Sex is a natural human urge. If you don't feel that urge then you are in the mass, mass minority. If you spend your entire life suppressing it then you're a fool.

Who says anything about me? I contest that it is possible for men and women to have happy relationships without sex at all. It's got nothing to do with desire.

You keep insisting that if you want to get married you should have children. You have never justified that in any way other than the bible.

Yes, I have justified that by saying that this is a major cause of breakup and divorce. Which you yourself confirmed. I don't like divorce, and if it means preventing divorce and increasing compatibility, this is something that should be discussed beforehand. If the answer is that one or the other does not want children, that the best outcome is not to marry.

[N35t0r]

Nothing. I'm perplexed by it as you.

So either I'm speaking for the Catholic church or for me.

So it's impossible to speak for both? Your actions are totally separated from the catholic churche's teachings? When you quote catholic doctrine you are not speaking for the catholic church as a whole? Or is it only Bentolic doctrine?

I'd like him to decide. I'm happy to state the official teachings of the Church, but then I have to insert the disclaimer that people who aren't Catholics aren't expected to live by Catholic church teachings.

Funny, because then you go on and state that everybody should go and do what you think they should.