Farage crushes Cameron

[MikeH]

2011 - as far as I can see they only asked top level Christian, not by denomination.

[MRT144]

You homophobic *****.

Why havent you banned him yet.

[MikeH]

Given that marriage is a sacrament, you're not going to get that.

They could do their own religious ceremonies, it just would need a legal marriage at a civil site to get the legal benefits.

[MikeH]

2011 Census Survey Question :

Recommended religious affiliation question for England

What is your religion?

No religion
Christian (including Church of England, Catholic, Protestant and all other Christian denominations)
Buddhist
Hindu
Jewish
Muslim
Sikh
Any other religion, please describe

[Ben Kenobi]

Lots of people care about fairness and equality.

Some people care about truth. Calling something that it isn't might be 'fairer' to the recipient of the largesse, but it doesn't help us overall.

Very few care enough about preventing fairness and equality to vote for it above considerations like the economy. Basically it's just the religious extremists like you, of whom we thankfully have very few.

The thing about Truth, is that it doesn't go away. Truth doesn't stop being truth.

I already told you why this is stupid. it doesn't get any cleverer with repetition.

Well, then, the point stands. It's not getting Cameron more votes.

You ****ing moron, even that bigoted Catholic diatribe doesn't say what you think it says. They're whining about the 'redefinition of marriage', not that they would be forced to actually carry out marriage ceremonies.

Umm, you need to reread. It's talking about exactly that. And MikeH already confirmed that this is the desire. So I guess that basically destroys your argument...

Yes, it'd be awful if the poor dears were put under 'intolerable moral pressures' by having to live in a fair and equal society. here's a thought, maybe they should all **** off to Texas.

It wouldn't be the first time that a sacrament has been outlawed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...-spending-1963

Thank you!

[Ben Kenobi]

They could do their own religious ceremonies, it just would need a legal marriage at a civil site to get the legal benefits.

If they do that change, it would have to be done for the CoE too. Recognition of CoE ceremonies without recognition of the Catholic church is discrimination.

[MikeH]

That should be construed as my personal desire only.

I don't really know or care what the significance of a certain ceremony being a sacrament is.

I also don't see why it should be a big deal if we outlaw something which a religion considers important. We wouldn't allow a religion to stone someone to death, no matter how important the rite might be to their religion. The law of the land is above petty superstitions.

[MikeH]

If they do that change, it would have to be done for the CoE too. Recognition of CoE ceremonies without recognition of the Catholic church is discrimination.

Yes, absolutely, of course, all religions.

[Ben Kenobi]

Pity you can only window shop the first one...

A least we have better variety than 'longhair', 'shorthair'.

[MikeH]

You talking about ****ing cattle now?

[Ben Kenobi]

I also don't see why it should be a big deal if we outlaw something which a religion considers important. We wouldn't allow a religion to stone someone to death, no matter how important the rite might be to their religion. The law of the land is above petty superstitions.

It's been done before with the Penal laws. If this happens, you'll see them cited word for word once again. Is this really what you want? There's no need for it MikeH. Attempting to pass something like this would be the greatest gift to the UKIP ever.

[Ben Kenobi]

You talking about ****ing cattle now?

Sheep.

[kentonio]

Some people care about truth. Calling something that it isn't might be 'fairer' to the recipient of the largesse, but it doesn't help us overall.

No, it doesn't help you. Luckily we have no desire to help you.

Umm, you need to reread. It's talking about exactly that. And MikeH already confirmed that this is the desire. So I guess that basically destroys your argument...

Much as I like Mike, I'm fairly sure he isn't speaking on behalf of the government. He's also kinder than me, I wouldn't make your lot carry out marriages, I'd just have you all machine gunned against a wall.

It wouldn't be the first time that a sacrament has been outlawed.

No-one cares.

[Dauphin]

UKIP - A new one issue party formed to get the UK out of the EU have captured about 23% of the vote in a low turnout. It's a significant showing for a very new party, they are the beneficiaries of the traditional mid-term kicking our electorate gives the Government and a general disappointment with all the traditional parties.

New-ish. They're 20 years old.

[Ben Kenobi]

No, it doesn't help you. Luckily we have no desire to help you.

One would that a policy which exacerbates demographic problems in the UK would be seen as a hindrance to the overall prosperity of the people.

I'd just have you all machine gunned against a wall.

Is that before or after you've had the entire priory raped?

It would be a disastrous move for your side - you would in a stroke go from being about advancing civil liberties to taking them away. But go on. Do it because it makes you feel good.