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[Sava]

**** Sava, you almost made me spit coffee on my keyboard.

better coffee than...

[MichaeltheGreat]

Studies show that the surest way to start out poor is to grow up in a broken home. So yeah. I'm an evil capitalist. I want people to get rich and well off and where they get there is by getting married and staying married.

So you're argument is to outlaw divorce, not prohibit marriage? In fact, you should mandate marriage to actually be consistent with the positions you spout, since you are happy to use state power to prohibit marriages you dislike.

[Sava]

Even so, you're arguing that Jesus symbolically meant something else in that passage other than 'man' and 'woman'. While the Catholic is arguing that the words mean what they mean. Clearly you've got off the rails if the Catholic is more literal than you.

You don't speak for all Catholics... only the worst kind.

[Kidlicious]

Even so, you're arguing that Jesus symbolically meant something else in that passage other than 'man' and 'woman'. While the Catholic is arguing that the words mean what they mean. Clearly you've got off the rails if the Catholic is more literal than you.

He's talking about man's relationship to Christ you dolt. Don't even blame the Catholics for your stupid interpretation.

[Ben Kenobi]

You don't speak for all Catholics... only the worst kind.

Yes - remember I pledged to obey der Panzerkardinel. Faithful Catholics really are the worst kinds. Lawful evil remember?

[Ben Kenobi]

So you're argument is to outlaw divorce, not prohibit marriage? In fact, you should mandate marriage to actually be consistent with the positions you spout, since you are happy to use state power to prohibit marriages you dislike.

You might have a point - but Jesus permits divorce in cases of marital infidelity. What he prohibits is remarriage. Funny thing - this is one of the strongest currents that Mennonites and Catholics share.

[Sava]

Of all the priests I've ever known, perhaps maybe 1 in 10 actually believes Jesus was a magical figure or the literal son of God. Faith and religion is many things, but it's not supposed to be about believing in demonstrably false nonsense. Only the retards manage to fail at religion. Sadly, there are too many of them.

[Kidlicious]

You might have a point - but Jesus permits divorce in cases of marital infidelity. What he prohibits is remarriage. Funny thing - this is one of the strongest currents that Mennonites and Catholics share.

So you want to outlaw remarriage, naturally.

[Ben Kenobi]

He's talking about man's relationship to Christ you dolt.

No, he's not. He's talking about marriage.

[Sava]

Yes - remember I pledged to obey der Panzerkardinel. Faithful Catholics really are the worst kinds. Lawful evil remember?

You have demonstrated repeatedly that you fail to understand what faith is. You shouldn't try to aggrandize yourself by putting the word "faithful" in a self-descriptor.

[Ben Kenobi]

Of all the priests I've ever known, perhaps maybe 1 in 10 actually believes Jesus was a magical figure or the literal son of God. Faith and religion is many things, but it's not supposed to be about believing in demonstrably false nonsense. Only the retards manage to fail at religion. Sadly, there are too many of them

One, I don't believe that Jesus was a magical figure. I believe that he was a real life person here on Earth, just like you or I. I also believe that he is the Son of God.

Tell you what, Sava. I'll put it up. If you can prove to me that Jesus Christ being the Son of God is demonstrably false, I will stop being a Christian.

[Ben Kenobi]

You shouldn't try to aggrandize yourself by putting the word "faithful" in a self-descriptor.

I said nothing but factual statements.

1, that I pledged to obey der Panzerkardinel.
2, that people on Poly believe that faithful Catholics (ie, those who obey the pope and the Catechism), are the worst kind of Catholics.

[Kidlicious]

No, he's not. He's talking about marriage.

Just interested. Do you have evidence that other Catholics believe this?

[Ben Kenobi]

So you want to outlaw remarriage, naturally.

If you were to make either divorce or remarriage illegal - I would vote for remarriage with the caveat of a living partner.

[MichaeltheGreat]

You might have a point - but Jesus permits divorce in cases of marital infidelity. What he prohibits is remarriage. Funny thing - this is one of the strongest currents that Mennonites and Catholics share.

So if you have your idyllic mother and father be fruitful and multiply marriage, and one of the parents decides to fool around on the side, divorce is permitted, thus, in your world view, condemning all those children to the poverty of a broken home, but the other spouse is prohibit from remarrying or being fruitful and multiplying? And this is rational how?

That's why "Jesus" doesn't make our laws.