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  • #91
    Originally posted by PLATO View Post
    I guess I am just not making my point clear. I do not believe such views should be respected. I believe that people's right to believe such things should be respected and that they should not be disrespected simply for their religious beliefs. Nothing more...nothing less.
    I agree with you. I don't have to respect the opinions of creationists, but I can respect their right to be ignorant/stupid.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
      How is your moral code different from Ayn Rand who believes the exact same thing?
      Actually it's very different, but I'm long past expecting you to understand any concept that can't be expressed in crayon form. She's also been dead for quite some time, so talking about her in the present tense isn't promoting the idea that you know what you're talking about.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
        You don't have to be a psychic to know what people are thinking. You are communicating your anger indirectly. Anyone with social intelligence can know what you are thinking and saying.
        Do you actually make a point of being wrong on a continuous basis ?
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        • #94
          I do criticise any Imam who denies that the holocaust happened. This doesn't mean I 'criticise religion'.
          Ergo, an atheist who 'doesn't see offenses' directed at Christianity, is just as meaningless as an Imam denying the Holocaust.
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          • #95
            Actually it's very different, but I'm long past expecting you to understand any concept that can't be expressed in crayon form. She's also been dead for quite some time, so talking about her in the present tense isn't promoting the idea that you know what you're talking about.
            Given as I believe in immortal souls, 'believes' is in the correct tense, since there is no indication that she ever stopped believing these things.

            Also, how is your morality different from hers? She believes that an individual can't be governed by supernatural authority. They must be governed by their own ideals.
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            • #96
              Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
              Ergo, an atheist who 'doesn't see offenses' directed at Christianity, is just as meaningless as an Imam denying the Holocaust.
              So now killing 6 million people is the moral equivalent of making fun of young earth creationists?
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              • #97
                Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                Also, how is your morality different from hers? She believes that an individual can't be governed by supernatural authority. They must be governed by their own ideals.
                Because, unless you also share all other ideas, then your morality is different? Or are you arguing that EVERYBODY who doesn't believe in a supernatural authority MUST HAVE the same morailty?
                Indifference is Bliss

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by dannubis View Post
                  Do you actually make a point of being wrong on a continuous basis ?
                  Ok, now your behavior is bordering sociopathic.
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by N35t0r View Post
                    Because, unless you also share all other ideas, then your morality is different? Or are you arguing that EVERYBODY who doesn't believe in a supernatural authority MUST HAVE the same morailty?
                    That would be called Reason.
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                    • OK, so if one guy who doesn't believe in god thinks that killing is good, then everybody who doesn't believe in god also believes killing is good?
                      Indifference is Bliss

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                      • Originally posted by N35t0r View Post
                        OK, so if one guy who doesn't believe in god thinks that killing is good, then everybody who doesn't believe in god also believes killing is good?
                        What do you mean by "killing is good?" Most people understand that killing is bad. You don't have to believe in God to believe that killing is bad. If someone believes that killing is good, they are probably crazy, and we shouldn't include them for this purpose. There is such a thing as a natural morality (if you want to call it that), and it isn't pretty. People don't really believe that killing is good, but that doesn't make their beliefs good. What human beings naturally believe about morality basically helps themselves and their tribe survive. It's evolution of the brain.
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                        • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                          Your true intent is to compare people who believe in religion to people who believe in UFOs.
                          plenty of overlap there, religions and cultures all over the world believe sky people came down here and made us

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                          • This is the last time I'm going to say it, and if some of you idiots can't comprehend, then it's your fault.

                            PERSONALLY, I think UFOs may exist. What I thought stupid was jumping to the immediate conclusion that they were being attacked by rock throwing UFOs.
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                            • Shame on you Sloww. Touting your crazy beliefs while disparaging others' crazy beliefs.
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                              • I didn't tout anything. That's a lot of my point.
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