Are states' rights more important than human lives?

[Ben Kenobi]

I'm going to quote the rest of this.

“One night a lady delivered and I was called to come and see her because she was uncontrollable,” says David Brewer, M.D., of Glen Ellyn, Ill. As a military physician in Ft. Rucher, Ala., Brewer performed abortions for 10 years. “I went in the room, and she was going to pieces; she was having a nervous breakdown, screaming and thrashing. The nurses were upset because they couldn’t get any work done, and all the other patients were upset because this lady was screaming. I walked in, and here was her little saline abortion baby kicking. It had been born alive, and was kicking and moving for a little while before it finally died of those terrible burns, because the salt solution gets into the lungs and burns the lungs, too.”

“I’ll tell you one thing about D&E,” says Levantino. “You never have to worry about a baby’s being born alive. I won’t describe D&E other than to say that, as a doctor, you are sitting there tearing, and I mean tearing – you need a lot of strength to do it – arms and legs off of babies and putting them in a stack on top of a table.”

[Ben Kenobi]

The next part.

Dr. Levantino’s conscience was awoken when he lost his own child and he could no longer carry out the death of another person’s child. Dr. Brewer’s experience was a bit more abrupt:


One particular abortion changed Brewer’s life. “I remember an experience as a resident on a hysterotomy (a late-term abortion delivered by caesarean section). I remember seeing the baby move underneath the sack of membranes as the caesarean incision was made, before the doctor broke the water.”

The thought came to me, ‘My God, that’s a person.’ Then he broke the water. And when he broke the water, it was like I had a pain in my heart, just like when I saw the first suction abortion. And then he delivered the baby, and I couldn’t touch it. I wasn’t much of an assistant. I just stood there, and the reality of what was going on finally began to seep into my calloused brain and heart.

They took that little baby that was making little sounds and moving and kicking, and set it on the table in a cold, stainless steel bowl. And every time I would look over while we were repairing the incision in the uterus and finishing the Caesarean, I would see that little person kicking and moving in that bowl.

And it kicked and moved less and less, of course, as time went on. I can remember going over and looking at that baby when we were done with the surgery and the baby was still alive. You could see the chest was moving and the heart beating, and the baby would try to take a little breath like that, and it really hurt inside, and it began to educate me as to what abortion really was.

Also, you left this part out about Levantino.

Our group was just about the only group that was performing late abortions, D & E procedures, Dilatation and Evacuation. And we received referrals from all over the area in our part of the state, even from neighboring counties 70 to 80 miles away. We had a lot of patients.

[kentonio]

So what? What does your opinion on the pros and cons of abortion have to do with anything in this thread?

[Kidlicious]

Of course if you don't think it's a baby, just a fetus, then it's easy money. Abortion doctors love the free market.

[Kidlicious]

Child porn producers make their money because not one else could live with themselves for producing child porn. Likewise, abortion doctors make their money because no one else wants to perform abortions.

[Ben Kenobi]

That's a good doggy, you go and lick your masters feet

Perhaps you should examine the quotation more carefully.

Anyone with lots of money is clearly super clever and special and more worthwhile a person than you.

I believe it is marxists who value a person based on their material worth. Last I checked, I am not a Marxist.

How the **** you have the cheek to claim to be christian is beyond me. Something about camels and needles ring any bells you ****ing joke of a human being?

Something about buried Talents ring any bells to you?

[Ben Kenobi]

So what? What does your opinion on the pros and cons of abortion have to do with anything in this thread?

Demand and supply, demand and supply. That experienced doctors who do abortions leave, and quit because of the problems associated with it are well documentated. This, encourages the market to push physicians into other specialities. There is a reason most pro abortion folks are pushing to have abortions done by non-physicians. Because apparently safety and certifications are less important than doing abortions.

[Ben Kenobi]

Child porn producers make their money because not one else could live with themselves for producing child porn. Likewise, abortion doctors make their money because no one else wants to perform abortions.

Would either of them make money if there were no demand for what they have to offer?

[Ben Kenobi]

Of course if you don't think it's a baby, just a fetus, then it's easy money. Abortion doctors love the free market.

Then why is there a shortage of doctors willing to perform them? Why are they pushing for publicly funded abortions in Obamacare?

[Kidlicious]

Would either of them make money if there were no demand for what they have to offer?

There is demand.

[kentonio]

Perhaps you should examine the quotation more carefully.

Your childish money worship is quite clear. You've never made any secret of your doe eyed adoration of those superhumans who carefully administer the wealth for the good of all. Just like you've never hidden your desire for poor people to suffer and die for the cardinal sin of being poor. Jesus would hate you.

I believe it is marxists who value a person based on their material worth. Last I checked, I am not a Marxist.

Nope, just a cretin.

Something about buried Talents ring any bells to you?

Please tell me about how Jesus loved the rich and hated the poor.

[Aeson]

In a twisted sort of way, BK is actually doing a great job of supporting his point.

[Kidlicious]

Then why is there a shortage of doctors willing to perform them? Why are they pushing for publicly funded abortions in Obamacare?

I'm going to avoid trying to explain economics to you. But the whole market works like this. In fact, it's a good investment principle is to invest in the most morally reprehensible investments. It always brings the greatest profit potential because people with souls will invest in good things which do good, not evil.

[Ben Kenobi]

There is demand.

Which means this side of the equation needs to be addressed as well. You can't just address supply. Why do people demand an abortion? It's an iron law of the market, that if there is no demand, there is no profit, and thus, no one working in them.

Chile once ruled the world for about 50 years until some crazy bald German destroyed their economy.

[Kidlicious]

Which means this side of the equation needs to be addressed as well. You can't just address supply. Why do people demand an abortion? It's an iron law of the market, that if there is no demand, there is no profit, and thus, no one working in them.

So you're for regulating demand and supply. Gotcha.