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We need an armed guard on every firetruck
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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostUm, no, that analogy doesn't work. Murder is already illegal. So was the gun used against the firetruck. Multiple times over. That's like saying I have blood on my hands for opposing prohibition.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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Originally posted by MOBIUS View PostHe doesn't actually care that they're dead, because he's a cold heartless f*ck, but it is embarrassing all the same...
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Originally posted by Asher View PostThis.
Moar guns - maybe this is the answer. Soon we can resolve disputes like back in the good ol' days of the wild west, too.
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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostThey're easy to obtain if you're willing to violate laws. Ability to get guns has nothing to do with the number of gun laws on the books, really. Otherwise Mexico, Brazil, and South Africa would all be gun violence free paradises.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
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Originally posted by MOBIUS View PostHC just doesn't like the inconvenient truth of being constantly reminded that he has the blood of those children and the firefighters on his hands because of he supports the laws that creates the environment where those people can be gunned down in their droves on a daily basis.
He doesn't actually care that they're dead, because he's a cold heartless f*ck, but it is embarrassing all the same...When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostYes, because our gun laws have completely failed to do anything meaningful for the past 80 years, we should start passing more in the blind faith that with just that much more government oversight things will become magically better. Mr. Firetruck Shooter's guns were illegal multiple times over. 1) he's a felon, 2) he had a gun in NYC, 3) he was carrying a gun in public in NYC, 4) he discharged a gun illegally in NYC, 5) he shot at people with intent to kill or maim.
So a convicted felon ineligible to possess firearms had a gun in a place where they are severely restricted to non-felons already and carried one without a permit, then discharged it and succeeded in committing murder. Maybe if we had stacked five or six more laws onto that he would have paid attention and stayed home.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
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Or more likely because there's no percentage in having a suppressor or an automatic gun over an ordinary, inexpensive, easy to conceal handgun.
Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostAnyway Brazil is a pretty well-developed country, if not super wealthy, especially in cities like Sao Paulo.
We did a study last year on the factors that affect the Index of Homicides of Adolescents in each county and discovered that the three most powerful factors are population size; poverty (specifically the average income of the poorest); and the quality of education.Last edited by Kidlicious; December 25, 2012, 21:54.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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If mass murder and 15 minutes of posthumous fame is one's thing, then I'm sure spray and pray full auto would be the choice of nutjobs if they were easily available. These people want to make an impact.
An outright MSR ban is not going to be effective, since there are already so many out in the population, but transactional restrictions, licensing and other regulations may be at least partly effective.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
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MtG, that's why we should have a massive gun buy back scheme like Australia did. Personally, I'd like to combine it with Japanese style regulations where gun owners must renew their gun license every year (I'd push the license fee as high as possible; $1000 per gun sounds right), require a 100 question test on gun laws (which must be flawlessly passed or you fail), and a yearly mental comprehensive mental health examine before you can legally own or keep a gun. Fail any of those and you can't keep your gun without it becoming an unlicensed gun. Possessing an unlicensed gun should be a felony where you spend not less than 10 years in prison, lose any and all rights to EVER own a gun again since you've proven you can't be trusted to obey the law, and a fine so massive most people would lose their home.
As a correlary anyone can turn in any gun at any police station and receive fair market value for the gun no questions asked. The police should then be legally required to destroy the gun. Law abiding people who can prove they know the laws and use the gun responsibly would still be able to get them but yahoos wouldn't and the number of guns out there would quickly dry up as hand in their guns when they can't pass or can't afford to renew the license.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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