We need an armed guard on every firetruck

[Dinner]

Except all three have pretty liberal laws as far as world standards go.

[Berzerker]

do we have the blood of people killed by drunk drivers on our hands?

and if we cleanse ourselves of that blood, will we then have the blood of people killed by Prohibition on our hands?

I'd like far fewer guns around, but peaceful means for achieving that goal are preferable to another "war" that'll likely kill far more people

[regexcellent]

Except all three have pretty liberal laws as far as world standards go.

All of them have laws more strict than New Zealand's or Canada's.

[giblets]

Mexico, Brazil and South Africa? Why are you comparing the United States with third world countries?

[regexcellent]

Why does that matter? Do you have a coherent reason why gun control in Brazil would operate differently?

Take note also of the Czech Republic which has pretty weak gun laws and not a ton of crime. In fact, the gun laws in the Czech Republic are generally weaker than those I deal with in Rochester.

[giblets]

Why should we expect countries with far fewer resources available for enforcing laws to achieve the same results from the same laws?

[Kidlicious]

Why does that matter? Do you have a coherent reason why gun control in Brazil would operate differently?

There's a correlation between income and homicide. The exception is Asia. Culture is a big factor, but you need to look within the US. Within the US, states with more guns have more homicides (controlling for poverty and urbanization).

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research...ath/index.html

[MrFun]

Mexico, Brazil and South Africa? Why are you comparing the United States with third world countries?

South Africa's not really a Third World country is it? I thought it's fairly well economically developed.

[Jon Miller]

Depends on who you are/where you live.

JM

[Jon Miller]

Some places are just starting to get electricity...


JM

[regexcellent]

Some places are just starting to get electricity...


JM

Those aren't the places with the high crime. That's places like Johannesburg.

Anyway Brazil is a pretty well-developed country, if not super wealthy, especially in cities like Sao Paulo.

[dannubis]

Those aren't the places with the high crime. That's places like Johannesburg.

Anyway Brazil is a pretty well-developed country, if not super wealthy, especially in cities like Sao Paulo.

Please, enlighten us with your knowledge of places where you have never been.

[Asher]

No, you are the spammer, moron. You are the one that started the thread despite the entire topic being done to death. You don't get to claim someone disrupting your USA sucks masturbation circle is spamming.

There is not a thread on the firetruck ambush.

I understand how you and your conscience feel better if you can just put all of the bad things you don't like in one thread, but welcome to the real world.

[Asher]

do we have the blood of people killed by drunk drivers on our hands?

You certainly do if you're one of the *******s petitioning against drunk driving laws because it infringes on your freedoms.

[regexcellent]

Um, no, that analogy doesn't work. Murder is already illegal. So was the gun used against the firetruck. Multiple times over. That's like saying I have blood on my hands for opposing prohibition.