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  • It's quite simple - to Protestants, deeds are the offshoots of faith. They come from faith and therefore those who do not perform deeds likely don't really have the transformative faith in Jesus Christ.

    Furthermore, sola fide is justification by faith. This does not mean or preclude that God will look at works during His judgement (just that it shall not be something that is taken into account for justification).
    Last edited by Imran Siddiqui; December 18, 2012, 17:19.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • Originally posted by Felch View Post
      In terms of man hours per life saved, is this the best way to deploy police? I have no idea, but I'm sure CompStat data could tell us.
      Half of government is theater, and besides which, having a police officer to talk to young kids about law and safety might do a lot to help down the road when it comes time for them to be delinquents.

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      • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
        It's quite simple - to Protestants, deeds are the offshoots of faith. They come from faith and therefore those who do not perform deeds likely don't really have the transformative faith in Jesus Christ.

        Furthermore, sola fide is justification by faith. This does not mean or preclude that God will look at works during His judgement (just that it shall not be something that is taken into account for justification).
        Can someone be saved who has faith but no deeds?
        John Brown did nothing wrong.

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        • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
          Half of government is theater, and besides which, having a police officer to talk to young kids about law and safety might do a lot to help down the road when it comes time for them to be delinquents.
          You're right. Most of my knowledge of drugs came from D.A.R.E.
          John Brown did nothing wrong.

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          • Originally posted by Felch View Post
            Can someone be saved who has faith but no deeds?
            I'll quote R.C. Sproul here:
            "The relationship of faith and good works is one that may be distinguished but never separated...if good works do not follow from our profession of faith, it is a clear indication that we do not possess justifying faith. The Reformed formula is, “We are justified by faith alone but not by a faith that is alone.”"

            Basically, that doesn't exist - or it wasn't actual faith.

            Calvin called works a "fruit of Faith", as there are fruits of the Spirit listed in Scripture (the Epistle that it is found in escapes me).
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
              Do they deserve greater respect than the victims of the Newtown Massacre or Aurora Shooting?
              I don't agree with imprisoning people or institutionalizing people for future, hypothetical crimes that they might or might not commit.
              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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              • Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat View Post
                Non-sequitur. There are a few blatant nut cases (a la Manson) that could be pretty easily identified, but that's a small minority. Once you start pre-emptively locking people up, you toss the Constitution down the ****ter and substitute the Gulag. I always knew you were really an undercover commie.
                Minor details like our Constitution or our liberty/rights are inconsequential to DD.
                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                • Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                  Minor details like our Constitution or our liberty/rights are inconsequential to DD.
                  I'm simply pointing out that offering more mental health services combined with relaxing the standards for involuntary commitment are more likely to have a greater impact on the murder rate than banning weapons liberal cowards like MtG and yourself find scary.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                    I'm simply pointing out that offering more mental health services combined with relaxing the standards for involuntary commitment are more likely to have a greater impact on the murder rate than banning weapons liberal cowards like MtG and yourself find scary.
                    I'm all for more effective mental health care that does not involve institutionalizing people for hypothetical crimes they may, or may not, commit.
                    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                    • dp
                      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                      • Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                        Minor details like our Constitution or our liberty/rights are inconsequential to DD.
                        Whereas the whole existence of the second amendment seems to be a minor detail that is inconsequential to you.
                        If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                        • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                          Whereas the whole existence of the second amendment seems to be a minor detail that is inconsequential to you.
                          I disagree with repealing the Second Amendment/wholesale ban on all firearms.
                          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                          • Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                            I'm all for more effective mental health care that does not involve institutionalizing people for hypothetical crimes they may, or may not, commit.
                            I thought we were for getting rid of certain rights for the sake of the children. I'm simply pointing out where the jackboot of government could better placed in order to actually solve the issue that has people so concerned at the moment.
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                              Jesus tap dancing Christ on a cracker.

                              1) I fully support socialized medicine.

                              2) I am aware of the current legal situation, as well as the murky questions of morality, to say nothing of the logistical problems. You will note I said "rebuild the entire mental health structure of the country" in my initial post.

                              Save the disdain for someone who deserves it.
                              Then why take the glib position that you can just lock people up? TBH, the socialized medicine point was a stab at DD and HC though.
                              You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                              • This DD person sounds really important if you'd feel the need to pour scorn and disdain on someone else in a failed attempt to stab at him.
                                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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