Palin v Clinton for 2016

[Imran Siddiqui]

JR, reread that paragraph. It says precisely the opposite.

You are reading the paragraph exactly the OPPOSITE way of what it says. Either you are being deliberately obtuse or just can't read.

[Ben Kenobi]

Anyways, I found the 2003 study.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/wp5cnp43k6byxj4d/

Jonathan Gottschall received his Ph.D. in English from Binghamton University and now teaches at St. Lawrence University in Canton, New York. His research focuses on bringing a Darwinian perspective to literary analysis and his publications include articles placing events in the Homeric epics, including rape, in evolutionary context. Tiffani Gottschall received her Ph.D. in Economics from Binghamton University and now teaches at St. Lawrence University. Her research focuses on explaining fertility differentials between American Indians and other American demographic groups.

Wow, that sounds like it would be *extremely empirical*.

[Ben Kenobi]

Anyways, I can't pull up the article, but it doesn't give me much confidence in the accuracy of their data. Does anyone who does have access mind pulling up the actual article so we can examine the evidence behind their 'claim'?

[Imran Siddiqui]

English Ph.D's can't do survey work now?

[Ben Kenobi]

English Ph.D's can't do survey work now?

That, btw is the only source, and it doesn't actually include the claim cited. So I have no way to prove that the article actually says what the WAPO claims it says, nor does it provide sufficient evidence to determine whether they adjusted for age.

If the average age for women engaging in consensual sex is 40 and the average pregnancy occuring from rape is 19, then your data has some serious problems.

[MRT144]

According to my assessments, either the average Texan student is really, really dim, or I'm a decent teacher. Choose one.

False Dichotomy.

[Imran Siddiqui]

That, btw is the only source, and it doesn't actually include the claim cited. So I have no way to prove that the article actually says what the WAPO claims it says, nor does it provide sufficient evidence to determine whether they adjusted for age.

If the average age for women engaging in consensual sex is 40 and the average pregnancy occuring from rape is 19, then your data has some serious problems.

As I'm guessing they are not as intellectually dishonest as you, I think its likely they corrected for other factors.

[Ben Kenobi]

As I'm guessing they are not as intellectually dishonest as you, I think its likely they corrected for other factors.

[citation needed]

[Ben Kenobi]

False Dichotomy.

What's the probability that for 45 students their average would be a standard deviation above the norm?

[MRT144]

What's the probability that for 45 students their average would be a standard deviation above the norm?

66%

[N35t0r]

If the average age for women engaging in consensual sex is 40 and the average pregnancy occuring from rape is 19, then your data has some serious problems.

No, not necessarily. With that statement, you're engaging in the same kind of fallacious arguments you claim the article has. (which, of course, you will insist upon even though your only arguments for it are falacies themselves)

[N35t0r]

What's the probability that for 45 students their average would be a standard deviation above the norm?

What's the probability that a classes'average depends on just one proffessor? I know I've had countless of terrible teachers, and I still was comfortably above average at school.

[regexcellent]

His students go to Catholic school. They're already boned in basic education.

Some Catholic schools are very good.

[MRT144]

Some Catholic schools are very good.

At teaching some things.

[MRT144]

What's the probability that a classes'average depends on just one proffessor? I know I've had countless of terrible teachers, and I still was comfortably above average at school.

tut tut, let's not question the value of teachers influence on student success.

How the **** does Ben live with himself?